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I got denial letter from the sponsorship from CIC saying that your income for year 2006 is not eligible for the sponsoring parents. But they transfer the file to Islamabad without sponsorship.
I sent a letter to CIC if they consider my income (CRA option C) for 2007 or 2008, which is more than enough for sponsorship. I haven't receive the reply back.
But I would like to know what would be the chances of accepting my request. Or what other options do I have.
As I already waited for sponsorship approval for 3 years.
Please suggest.
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to asimn:
Was the income low in 2006 option C. I also applied for parents application in jun 2008 and i am worried now. My 2007 option C has low income.I am not sure what are the options for you. I have read in the forums that people talk to there local MP, but i am not sure how much of help that would be. Hope you find a way get it approved. Keep us posted
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to nas278:
I received the letter from CIC saying that if you want to consider this application under the sponsorship than have to re apply for this whole process. When I applied for sponsorship, the income for 2006 was OK, because i applied in january 2007. But when I received my T4, it showed lower than I calculated.
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to asimn:
what is eligible income?
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hi
so cpc check the T4for the previous year in you apply.am i right.i did not know that.can you tell me how short you were of your lico.there is another thing which says apply on last years T4or last 12 months income.
i applied on last 12 months income in july 2008' i am above on the lico but if you check 2007 T4 i am short like 2000 dollars.
my question is am i gonna assess on 2008 T4 OR 2007 T4.
I AM REALLY UPSET AFTER READING YOUR CASE.CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN.THANK
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to lucky786:
Hi, I did the same thing when i applied in Jun 2008. My T4 for 2007 was low so i did the option for last 12 months. It clearly states in the application section 15 that if your income on T4 is low for the past year then provide the past 12 months income prior to the date of application. You will not be assessed on 2007 T4. It will be 2008 on wards. This was the information given to me when i applied for my sponsorship. If you find any information different please do share. I think the person whose case was rejected didnt submitted the last 12 months, he only went be the income based on T4.
Thanks.
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iHI
I JUST READ YOUR ANSWER AND I AM SO RELIEVED.OUR TIMELINE IS ALMOST SAME AND APPLIED THE SAME WAY.I WAS SCARED TO DEATH AFTER READING ASMIN S NOTE.I HOPE EVERYTHING GOES WELL WITH HIM.IT IS REALLY A LONG LONG WAIT AND NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR SUCH NEWS.
YES YESTERDAY I READ CIC FORMS AND GUIDES AGAIN AND IT IS VERY CLEAR THERE .IT IS A ''OR'' BETWEEN 12 MONTHS OR LAST T4.I TRIED TO CALL CIC BUT COULDN'T SPEAK TO ANY ONE.
I HOPE THEY ASK US FOR 2008 T4.I WILL LET YOU KNOW IF I STUMBLE UPON SOME NEW INFORMATION AND YOU DO THE SAME.THANKS BYE.
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to lucky786:
The safest bet is to submit 12 months worth of payslips, this is to show that you are currently earning more than what is required if your T4 or Tax assessment for a previous year is less than what is applicable. In my case, I was a new immigrant at 2005, I had to wait till I got 12 months worth of payslip showing continous and consistent salary that is above the LICO required to sponsor. but since my tax asssessment for 2005 was way below the required amount (since I only got a job Oct 2005), and I'll have to wait till tax assessment after April 2007 for my 2006 income, I just showed my 12 month income starting Jan 2006 to Dec. 2006 and submitted the documents in Feb 2007. we have received approval Nov 2009.. If I waited for May 2007 (the earliest I can get a tax assessment for my 2006 income), and submitted June 2007, we probably are still waiting for the approval up to now...
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to rolandsoft:
I sent them request to reconsider my application with the last 12months period (which make sense too). But they replied back that if all eligibility requirements for sponsorship are met on the day on which the application was filled and from that day until the day a decision is made with respect to the application.
And on second letter they said that Since your application was received on Jan 4, 2007, we reviewed your income for the period from jan 04, 2006 to jan 04, 2007, be advised that officer doesn't have authority to consider income earned outside the above stated 12-month period.
What do you think here, I know it is non-sense to consider that 12-months and keep this application for 3 yrs just to reply that you're not eligible for sponsoring.
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to lucky786:
its not the matter for applying either thru T4 or last 12months. It is matter of considering the income either thru T4 or last 12-months preceding the date of application submit.
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to asimn:
They denied your application based on the info that you gave them at the time of application. This means that when you applied for it, your income was not eligible at that time. If you submitted an application, without the requisite income, means you are jumping the gun and submitting the applicaiton just to get an earlier priority date.
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to rolandsoft:
I am little corcern about my application. My T4 was low for 2008 but i applied in Jun 2008 providing income for past 12 months. Will they accept my 12month income provided that T4 income was low for that year.
Thanks
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hi
thanks every one .when i send my application i send 12 months of check stubs with them.i guess i did the right thing.
now can you tell me as i applied in 2008 so cpc is going to ask me for option c of which year? 07 , 08, 09 or 2010 or all of them.so far by the grace of God i was able to maintain my LICO.
to rolandsoft
can you tell me please which years option c they asked from you2005 or 2006 or all?And how many months before processing your case i mean before nov 2009 they asked for it?what other papers they need if any?
Guys if our application will be approved here so what are the chances at our local visa office.Can they deny over there
Thanks to every one and best of luck
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to lucky786:
I submitted Option C which had my income for 2005 (I submitted Feb 2007 and 2006 was not yet available). I started work Oct 2005, so my income was obviously not enough, however I submitted Jan 2006 to Dec 2006 worth of payslips, and the last payslip clearly shows my total for the whole year and it is high enough to sponsor. When they gave me the approval Nov 2009, I was not asked to submit any other documents at all and we were told to submit the application at the local consulate of my mother-in-law.
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to nas278:
I think it is ok. Although I'm not sure if they verify the current income, unless they have access to our records at Canada Revenue. As far as I know, they either consider your last tax assessment (option C) or payslips. If the option C income is not enough, then the current payslips up to 1 year would be required.
Actually I do not understand your post, you applied Jun 2008 and you say 2008 T4 was low? I assumed you applied with the option C for 2007, so do you mean your 2007 income is also not enough? If yes, then they should consider your 12 month of payslips. That's proof that at the point you applied, you had sufficient income. I don't know if they verify for income after, but in my case, they did not ask for additional documents or income proofs when they approved our application.
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thanks .I hope same happens here with us.pray for us too.
TO ASIMN
SO they send your file to local visa office without sponsorship what does that mean.is it upto them to approve your case?
DID cpc send you any application forms for your relatives.?
I know it is really a long long wait and getting longer every day,are you considering to reapply for the approval.i mean while they are processing at your local visa office why don't you apply again with better standing this time.what you think?
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to lucky786:
If I re-apply it... I have to withdraw first from my original application.
So I'll have to be in a queue again. At that time when I applied my T4 was OK, but than Revenue Canada changed the T4 which become low.
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to asimn:
I don't understand, you applied with a T4 that was above the income requirement? Was it the Option C (Canada Revenue Assessment) or T4 from your employer? Everytime we submit our tax returns, Canada Revenue gives us the Option C, which is usually the last Tax Assessment after filing last year's tax return. The only documents they would accept is either the Option C assessment or 12 month current payslip. So If you submitted other docs, like your T4, I don't think they will accept it and will ask for the Option C, which may have a different amount... was this what happened to you?
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To rolandsoft
I guess , problem for T4 may be is because sometime when we calculate our money may be we add some money like student loan or something like that which on the final assessment CRA corrects.
TO ASIMN
so what is the difference in your ase and a sponsoship approved case at local visa office?What are your chances.By the way why don't you apply through provincial nominee programme.in this way you do not have to withdraw your previous application.bye everyone .take care.
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to lucky786:
I was thinking this to apply thru provincial nominee but under family stream their ages should be under 45. And my parents are close to 60?
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to asimn:
The Nominee program usually is for those up to 50 years old, but you can try especially if one of your parent has a sought after ability like project management, or whatever high priority workers needed by your province. The Nominee Program is free in Manitoba so no loss there if you try... If you are in Alberta, I think it is a bit more restrictive there for the qualification requirements.
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to lucky786:
I don't really understand, a T4 is a wage or summary of the income for the tax year for a particular employer. The requirement to sponsor is either Option C assessment from Revenue Canada, OR 12 month of payslips... The T4 is not required, but does not hurt to send in addition to the 12 month payslip (to prove your income, in case your payslip is just a piece of typewritten or generic form).
So if you have other income like Savings interest or other sources, the Option C assessment will take that into account. Loans or other money not considered income will be on a different form like bank statements, etc and not on a T4... So, I'm back to my first question, what was submitted with the App that made him think he had sufficient income to sponsor his parents?
My guess is, he knows that he does not have sufficient income during the app, but wanted to beat the long waiting period and went ahead with the sponsorship thinking he can muster the required income in the future and just amend his application... This is just beating the queue for all others, making the waiting time for legitimate apps longer, since there will be more people being assessed, the rest of us in the queue will be waiting longer...
I'm just saying, if you are not yet prepared or do not have enough income. please do not overload the system with your incomplete app. Once you are ready, then apply for it.... The painful lesson you had now is that your app is DENIED, and instead of waiting for an extra year or two, you are now at the back of the line again!
I'm sorry about what happened to ASIMN's app, but he made the rest of us wait a bit longer, and trying to beat the system made him waste 3 years of his parent's life...
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yes you are right.i know that is very clear on the financial assessment forms which income you shuld calculate and which not..
does mostly cases for parental sponsorship get approve at cpc missisauga or there is some percentage which get denied too.i mean in case you have income above LIco to sponsor.and what are approval chances at local via offices .i am really excited for my parents and siblings.i am working really hard to reach the LICo every year.because i had no idea which years option c they will ask me.
My understanding through all threads and forum is that if you apply after meeting all the requirements usually all the cases get approved.
here is another question
i know someone who meets all the requirements to sponsor parents but years ago he went on social assisstant for one year.as far as he knows he is not in debt of govt.so if he apply what are his chances.Do you get rejected on this base or got a chance to pay all the money back you got for assisstance and continue with your application and get approval?what you think or know?
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to lucky786:
I would think they approve every application that had a valid and complete requirements.
I think that it wouldn't matter if he was in Social Assistance, as long as he is CURRENTLY able to show that he is qualified, at that point he can apply and they will base their decision on whatever proof that you gave them during that time. Once approved, they will transfer the application to the local consulate where they will probably verify the income or not if it is current.
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