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HSMP Application: Denied after 197 days 
User: mycanal Applied From: United Kingdom
Application Filed: 10 Jan 2008 Application Received: 11 Jan 2008
Points Claimed: 90 Fee Debited: 11 Jan 2008
Reference No. Received: 15 Jan 2008 Reference No.: 2457XX
Application Status: denied Denial Date: 26 Jul 2008
Papers Received: 26 Jul 2008 Nationality: Pakistan
Last Updated: 24 Sep 2008
Notes: JUST GOT CASEWORKER NOTES, SAYING , THEY CALLED MY EMPLOYER IN PAKISTAN AND MY EMPLOYER STATED MY SALARLY AS 20K RUPEES WHEREAS MY ORIGNAL SALARY WAS 90K RUPEES. THUS THE HSMP KEPT MY ORIGINALS. MY CONSULTANT IS VERY GREEDY AND LIAR,NEVER WANTED TO HELP M

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23 Comments
 Posted by mycanal on 09 Apr 2008
called ho, thy said some ppl have been waiting over a year so dont aspect it any sooner
 Posted by Hassan on 04 Jun 2008
Hi mycanal,
did u get anyresponse frm home office. as u said u have complaint. Please let us know whats the outcome? i am thinking to complaint as well? Can you plz let me know what u worte in ur complaint.
Regards
 Posted by mycanal on 04 Jun 2008
i wrote them my name,address, ref number,dob and said that i applied on 10 Jan 2008,now it is almost 5 months, and this delay is unacceptable and that although bia website says 95% cases are decided within 14 weeks but they don't and also that whenever i call, instead of telling us the progress, they just keep saying that it is with caseworker and further they say that some ppl are waiting over 1-2 years. it is quite frustrating and also i came to know that many ppl are complaining of damaged documents and lost documents in post. which is quite scarry. i wish to know ,exactly what is the status of my application, how long it can take more, and how are you doing the verification and through which agency..as caseworker sometime say that delay is from the verification side and not from H.O side. so i wish to contact them and complain them as well and also to find out , how is taking extra lime and ignoring my application.
this is the website, i think everyone , who is waiting over 20 week should complain by email,fax and by post.
and also contact your local M.P. some ppl have complained to mp and home office previously , and said , it is not a solid solution but it is our right and obligation to complain about a genuine delay that we are going through. and we all know how hard it is to wait for months and even worst if it is in years.. hsmp caseworker told me that there is not maximum time , a case can take and they treat each application individually.
so plz dont wait for my outcome and better to complain so ur head count as well..anyway, the rest is upto you.. some ppl are withdrawing form hsmp and re-applying in tier1 as well.
 Posted by lovzu123 on 06 Jun 2008
hi,mycanal
i know u r really worried..i am facing same thing..i applied nov 07...after 197 days,they called my employer about my previous earnings..but still m waiting..but i have no complain.bcoz i have a trust that they will give +ve result.
 Posted by danialbutt on 09 Jun 2008
Hi mycanal

I got the complaint form, but there is no fax or email to send this complaint. Have you got idea where to send this form.
Bye
 Posted by mycanal on 10 Jun 2008
*

Phone: 020 8603 5409

Fax: 020 8760 8765

Email: LSECSU@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk

Address: London and South East Region Customer Service Unit, PO Box 1863 Croydon CR9 3UF
 Posted by danialbutt on 10 Jun 2008
Thanx Buddy
 Posted by mycanal on 11 Jun 2008
North east, Yorkshire and Humberside

The North east, Yorkshire and Humberside customer service unit can deal with complaints from customers living in the region or complaints about the service provided by the region.



Phone: 0114 207 6565

Fax: 0114 207 6368

Email: NEYHCustomerSe@ind.homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk

Address: North East, Yorkshire and the Humber Region CSU, PO Box 3468, Sheffield, S3 8WA
 Posted by rajuTIER1 on 25 Jun 2008
i fax them to get refrance thr' mail ..........they mailed me the ref no .......
thanx u ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i get a bir relax now
 Posted by nasirpk on 26 Jun 2008
I also sent a complaint last week and they replied saying your case in under consideration. Cant tell abt time frame
 Posted by maddyUK on 09 Jul 2008
hi mycanal, even i'm waiting for decision on HSMP application more or less with same number days as of you. I have been watching your case and ur duscussion forms. I was just curious to knw that did u send any fax to HO regarding your application as i see that 'worriedmr' gave u a suggestion regarding this. Please suggest or if you would like u can contact me at madan@chaithu.com. thank you
 Posted by mycanal on 14 Jul 2008
yes, i did sent in fax, and also involeved my mp and a lord, and when they wrote to home office on my behalf , only then home office, wrote me letter confirming that my doucments are gone to pk for verification and that they have requested to expedite the verification.
but fromt he tone of home office, it seems ,they dont like ppl who use mp and etc to pursue their case. home office prefer that ppl cal the public phone and just cool down or feeze down till home office decide...
now atleast, my my , uk lord, and hsmp team manager are in direct contact with me and after few months, i will follow up. there is no way i am gona wait for years like some other have been wating 2-3 years. we have paid for service, it should be within a year i think.mrworried gave very good suggestions.............. it does make difference....
 Posted by fahim79 on 27 Jul 2008
that is really very very sad news mycanal i have been watching you case... quit a long time.. you should apply for review... but i would suggest if you can offerd try appling Teir 1 ... they would consider ur documents as genion if they can't verify them... but how come they give you 0 points... wat about qualification and age points
 Posted by aneela on 27 Jul 2008
hi there,

i am so sorry to hear the news. tell me did you show salary from pakistan? tell me please exactly what document they could not verify either your tax document or they couldnt reach the employer. did they give you right to appeal. May Almighty help but dont be hopeless.

aneela
 Posted by mycanal on 27 Jul 2008
thanks,fahim and aneela,
i am on study visa since jan 2004, thus showed pk income.
home office said, could not verify any document, birth cert, income, uk exp,
so they assigned 0 to each and all sections.
hsmp uk were telling me from last many months that they sent for verifications to their colleagues in pk but no reply from them. and now i think they still couldnot get any reply from them thus they assigned me zero for every possible section.
 Posted by nasirpk on 29 Jul 2008
hi,
did they contact ur employer in pakistan to verify salary ? what is ur employer saying ?
 Posted by mycanal on 29 Jul 2008
home office or anyone on their behalf, never contacted my employer...
i had a typical consultant, who was 100% sure about success and claimed that never ever his case got denied but minutes after received his payment in full and non-refundable ,start saying, we do our best and the rest is upto allah,
i am trying to contact him now. but he seems too busy now.. and now wish to earn money for appeal/review.
anyway, any consultant cannot do anything once home office, play the delaying tactic saying they are verifiying for months or years.
the max one can do is complain or get his mp involve, and in such case home office refuse saying ,unable to verify thus given points are zero. so is my typical case.
i am just not sure, what is the way forward...do i need to sent in all orignal documents for review, as i am getting admission in uni this oct and i need to show them all orignal education documents as well. and i got only 24 days left to apply for review.
should i write a letter about anything.. can i apply for revew without original education certificate. i dont know if the review will take agan so many months in waiting ...if anyone can guie me plz do ..is appeal and review same things or different...
 Posted by danialbutt on 29 Jul 2008
I am really sorry, its too sad to here this. Its rubbish wht they doing.

Well Mycanal, you dont have to send your original docs for review. Review process is very simple, Your consultant must help u in this regard. In review you will send only Review Form with a Covering Letter, you can email,post or fax them. They got copies of ur HSMP File.

I am also waiting for review result.
 Posted by fahim79 on 29 Jul 2008
u don't need to send any documents they have copyies of ur documents already...
 Posted by fahim79 on 03 Aug 2008
u don't need to send any futher documentation... just call them ask to return ur original documents
for the appeal just write a letter to them.. either fax it or send it by mail
 Posted by fahim79 on 17 Aug 2008
how did you got the feed back from ur caseworker...!! firstly you should ask them to return ur documents you can tell them there should be a kind of misunderstanding from your employer... if you can get a written evidance you should get it from your employer relating your salary... if you have made no false declaration... you should take this matter with any manager in the HSMP team... have you talked with your consultant about this matter??
 Posted by mycanal on 24 Sep 2008
my consultant was only interested in money and as soon as he received his fee in full , non refundable , his wording,promises and everything changed.. and he start saying that his job is only to launch the application and the rest is up to Allah.
he is total fraud in this business for money only .
just in case anyone wish to know , his name is ALI IMRAN, SOMETIME HE , INTRODUCE HIMSELF AS IMRAN ALI, HE IS IN ILLFORD ,LONDON.
AND UKMIGRATE IS HIS OFFICE AS WELL, BUT HE IS TOTALY UNTRUSTABLE. BECAREFUL .
I HAVE GIVEN UP ON HSMP FOR NOW.. AND GOING TO STUDY FOR MASTERS DEGREE IN UK UNIV FOR MASTER IN LOGISTIC AND SUPPLY CHAIN FOR ONE YEAR AND AFTER THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 2 YEAR PSW. AND IN THE MEAN TIME WOULD TRY FOR UK WORK PERMIT IF I GOT A GOOD PROFESSIONAL JOB. SO IN THIS WAY. I WOULD NOT NEED PK INCOME PROOFS ETC.
ONCE I GOT A UK JOB/INCOME THEN I MIGHT APPLY FOR NEW HSMP(TIER1).
THAT IS MY LONG TERM PLANNNING. BUT SINCE I HAVE A WIFE AND A SON IN UK ON STUDENT DEPENDENT VISA THEREFORE I THOUGHT BETTER GO SLOW AND STEADY.. BECAUSE WHEN PK INCOME AND PK EDUCATION IS INVOLVE IT TAKE TOO LONG AND I AM NOT SURE IF MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYER GOING TO CO-OPERATE WITH ME.
 Posted by danialbutt on 24 Sep 2008
Brother, its too sad to hear this. dont loose heart and strive to get your future. Inshallah it will be alright in future. At the moment we can do nothing against them. God bless you and your family.
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