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Topic: Whats wrong with ATL PERM Center
Posted by Junecat (3) 18 Jul 2007
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First Name: Renata J. Address: Employment and Training Admin, Harris Tower, 233 Peachtree St, STE410
Last Name: Adjibodou Zip/Postal Code: 30303
Location Type: Business City: Atlanta
Business: U.S. Department of Labor State/Province: GA
Recipient's
Phone #: 4048930101 Country: United States
Delivery Date: 19, July 2007
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Posted by dsik (247) 18 Jul 2007
great goin people. keep sending.

GUYS dont confuse with sending to wahington now. STICK TO ATLANTA, STICK TO RENATA, STICK TO TMRW.

JUST SEND GUYS.

lets not just talk. lets do it.

lets see names aded in the list. go on guys. send and write your name in the list. please.
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Posted by dsik (247) 18 Jul 2007
GUYS,

LIST IS STILL EMPTY. 18 PEOPLE PLEDGED. FILL IT UP GUYS. SEND AND ADD.
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Posted by spd123 (202) 18 Jul 2007
GcWaiting2007,

Let's ignore the comments from deba for now and concentrate on our efforts. We will do the math/hypothesis/projections/prayers every thing after we are done with our efforts. We may have a clear picture in a week or two from now until then let's continue what we are doing....(just a thought, not a sermon :))

Regards!
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Posted by spd123 (202) 18 Jul 2007
Guys...Email addresses pleaseeeee
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Posted by h12gc (62) 18 Jul 2007
16. h12gc I am in for flower compaign.
I will send emails and fax regularly from today.
My PD-04/25/2007
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Posted by dsik (247) 18 Jul 2007
you are right spd123.

lets just not talk at all.

send flowers. thats it.

add your names to the list.
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Posted by MYGC2007 (59) 18 Jul 2007
DOL and DHS claim to work independently of each other. In fact DOL says they know nothing about the July bulleting fiasco! Likewise, DHS/USCIS claims to know nothing about the PERM process or the inefficiencies in Atl and disparity between Chicago & Atlanta


Guys I dont think it will make any sence trying all these flowers stuff etc. As per some friends of mine Dol might get more slower with their approval process because USCIS already have a huge backlog and more are going to come by 17th August 2007. So they might slow down the process of approvals so that they can atleast restrict more to add to the pile. Dont get dishurtened but to me as well this seems very true after seeing the way they work.....So just keep praying coz only that can help....



Why this applicable to only Atlanta center. If this is the case, it shold be apllicable for both centers. Right????

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Posted by dsik (247) 18 Jul 2007
here you go!!

LIST OF CONTACTS:

THE SECRETAY OF STATE: ELAINE CHAO
FAX #: 202 693 6111
Elaine Chao's email is: secretaryelainechao@dol.gov
Phone number: 202-693-6000

Dr. William L. Carlson, Ph.D. - Chief
Division of Foreign Labor Certification
FP Building,Room C-4312,200 Constitution Avenue NW.
Washington,DC 20210
Phone:202 693-3010
Email:carlson.william@dol.gov

Brian Pasternak, PERM Program Manager, Office of Foreign Labor Certification, US Department of Labor, Washington, DC; pasternak.brian@dol.gov Telephone number: (202) 693-3010 (this is not a toll-free number). Fax: (202) 693-2768

Renata J. Adjibodou, Center Director, Foreign Labor Certification, Atlanta National Processing Center 404/893-0102

"Jean-Pierre, Isabel - ETA" , "Henderson, Mada - ETA" --- their e-mail ID is lastname.firstname@dol.gov
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Posted by dsik (247) 18 Jul 2007
MYGC2007,

PLEASE DO NOT DISCOURAGE PEOPLE. IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEND, DONT.

PLEASE DO NOT SAY THIGNS LIKE THIS.

THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT. WE CAN ONLY DO OUR EFFORTS AND PRAY.

GUYS, PLEASE KEEP AWAY FROM COMMENTS LIKE THIS.
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Posted by greybear (35) 18 Jul 2007
I sent them one on 17th.
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Posted by spd123 (202) 18 Jul 2007
ps57002,

You can send flowers or flower pot or any acceptable token item that you can think of. It's purely at your own discretion.
Having said that, let's not send unpopular items like Money/giftcheques/subscriptions to Playboy's/toys that would potentially hamper our process:)))

Regards!
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Posted by june22perm (86) 18 Jul 2007
Friends

Hope many of you are aware of Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren who stood up for the cause of immigrants in the July bulletin fiasco. She was a key personnel in bringing about the reversal of bulletin yesterday.

Please contact her and request her to look into our case. e-mails are not usually responded. Better send a letter. Or fax your letter.

Please do it asap
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 18 Jul 2007
According to my lawyer we can file 485 only if the labor gets approved by Jul 31st. Does it make sense to anybody? Is it true?
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Posted by MYGC2007 (59) 18 Jul 2007
?????
dsikka (49) How is my earlier message discouraging you or anyone else now?


MYGC2007,

PLEASE DO NOT DISCOURAGE PEOPLE. IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEND, DONT.

PLEASE DO NOT SAY THIGNS LIKE THIS.

THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT. WE CAN ONLY DO OUR EFFORTS AND PRAY.

GUYS, PLEASE KEEP AWAY FROM COMMENTS LIKE THIS.



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Posted by pcsankar73 (138) 18 Jul 2007
Just Sent my Flowers : For tommorow delivery to Atlanta (Renata)
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Theme : Thank You.

Message:
We Thank You all for your efforts in speeding up & clearing the backlogs .
We request you to please expedite the process and help all those who have been stuck in the system to go ahead
and can make it to the USCIS before Aug 17.

Thanking you in advance,
Atlanta PERM Applicant
Part of a Bigger Forum

1-800-FLOWERS® Bountiful Basket™

Name : Renata J Adjibodou
Address: Employment and Training Admin, Harris Tower, 233 Peachtree St, STE 410 , Atlanta , 30303
Location Type : Business
Phone : 4048930101 .
Delivery Date : 19-July-2007
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Posted by GcWaiting2007 (80) 18 Jul 2007
No it is not true. Your PD should be before July 31 st.
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 18 Jul 2007
my lawyer told me same.PD doesnt matter....................

people will get chance to apply if he/she get approval before 31st July.
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Posted by vdlrao (246) 18 Jul 2007
rakib123,
same what? pd should be before jul31st or approval should be before jul 31?
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 18 Jul 2007
approval should be before 31st july.

Read carefully yesterday notice. They withdrawn notice of July 02.they didn’t publish new date
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Posted by spd123 (202) 18 Jul 2007
MYGC2007,

Your copy'n' paste of deba's message may have caught dsikka's attention. It kind of echoed the same for me too... later I realized you were opposing deba's message. I'm sure it's a misunderstanding.

Cheers!
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Posted by june22perm (86) 18 Jul 2007
Yesterday's notice mentions ONLY about PD. It does not say about labor approval date. Our PD is the date we APPLIED for labor
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Posted by vdlrao (246) 18 Jul 2007
Guys,

Please get the clarification from the lawyers on this. I just got it from my lawyer, he saying that if we get approval before aug 17th we are good to apply in this current.
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Posted by spd123 (202) 18 Jul 2007
Guys,

Approval can be before August 17th as long as the PD is before July 31st. I have confirmed this with my lawyer.

PS:your packet should reach the USCIS ON or Before 17th though.
Regards!
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 18 Jul 2007
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sent from ftd.com. delivery 7/19. Sent The FTD® Peace Lily Basket
message: Thank You for your efforts in speeding the PERM process. Please further expedite it so all of us can make the USCIS queue before Aug 17. Hope this plant, as a token of appreciation, brings peace/tranquility in your life. Thanks.

to
Name : Renata J Adjibodou
Address: Employment and Training Admin, Harris Tower, 233 Peachtree St, STE 410 , Atlanta , 30303
Location Type : Business
Phone : 4048930101 .
Delivery Date : 19-July-2007
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 18 Jul 2007
Guy’s USCIS withdraw last notice. And as per July Visa bulletin People can apply who has labor approved before July 31st, 2007. They also published another Visa Bulletin August 07 (UUUUUUUU).

Logic is very simple……… they withdraw the July 2nd notice.
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Posted by dsik (247) 18 Jul 2007
guys guys, please please DO NOT DISCUSS any thing else today.

Aug 17 fine, July 31, EVEN LESS OF A TIME TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

spd, jun22, zzjj, all of you. please ask ALL to send flowers in ALL your posts.

It will shameful to know only 8 people sent. DOL will laugh at us. this is what they are calling a team, unity. ha ha.

Please guys,

dont talk, just do it.

act now
send now
add your name.
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 18 Jul 2007
spd123, vdlra0.......... i wish your lawyer is right....
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Posted by june22perm (86) 18 Jul 2007
What does the second notice/withdrawal have to do with priority dates??

whatever happens, your priority date is teh date you applied for labor. And if your PD is before July 31, you can apply.

Example:

1) Apply for labor on July 31. PD is july 31. Approval on Aug 14. - CAN apply

2) Apply for labor on August 1. PD is Aug 1. Approval on August 2 - CANNOT apply

don't get confused guys
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Posted by vdlrao (246) 18 Jul 2007
I faxed to DOL.
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To,
U.S. Department of Labor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303.


Dear Sir/Ma’am,


This is related to labor certification process at the Atlanta PERM Processing Center.
PERM applications from Mid-west and West cost are processed at Chicago center which is having a turnaround time of 8-10 days while Atlanta, which process applications from the East cost, has turnaround time of 130-160 days.Currently there are 1000's of PERM applications pending at Atlanta PERM Processing Center. There are people waiting for their labor applications (First stage towards attaining permanent residence) to be approved for more than a year. PERM Centers were established to process applications in 90 days, but there are 1000's of cases that have been pending for more than 3 months now. There is no visibility into the process, it is slow and makes life tough people who are here on an H1 or other work visas.

Dept of State has just came out with the updated visa bulletin which allowed all the applicants with the PERM approved to move to next stage of their Green Card process, and set up the dead line for that as Aug 17th 2007. Thus it is very important that Atlanta should process application at the same speed as the Chicago to have parity and fairness. But this is not happening and applicants who are on the East cost are paying heavy price for living in this part of the country.

A person who applied for PERM two weeks ago at the Chicago ( because he lives on the west cost) would get approved in 8-10 days and would be able to move to the next stage of Green Card process. However, if a person apply to the Atlanta center would have to wait about more than 3 months to get his application approved. In the present scenario when the visa dates are current, west cost people are moving rapidly ahead in the GC process. It is not because they have done something unusual but because of the long processing time at Atlanta center which is taking 10s of times more time in doing the same thing which its counter part (Chicago) is doing so quickly and efficiently.

I hope as a head of the department you look into the issue thats effecting thousands of legal immigrants and their families and resolve it. If we miss this current window, may be no body knows how long we need to wait to get our priority dates as current. Please keep our hopes alive.


Thanks,
Hard Working Immigrants from Atlanta region.
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Posted by deba (24) 18 Jul 2007
june22perm is right? Smart chap....:-)
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Posted by iliasATL (5) 18 Jul 2007
IF some of us are not sending flowers, it doesn't mean that we don't want this situation to be resolved. However, I personally think that sending flowers or chocolate won't change a thing. Just think about it for a minute. The employees are DOL are sitting there and they receive these flowers and say one of two things:
- Oh look these people are nice, so we are gonna change all of our process to go faster.
- Oh we feel bad for these people, we should do something for them!.
I am not being sarcastic, but i think that real solutions are needed. When a Senator or a Congressman office investigates into one of these things then you can expect results.
I work for a Govt agency and I see this on a daily basis.
I am just like us all frustrated, but have a different opinion on the approach. I wish good luck to all of you here, cause I feel your pain.
Regards
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Posted by spd123 (202) 18 Jul 2007
rakib123 ,

I don't wish your lawyer is wrong. coz', I know hez wrong:))

Regards!
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Posted by dsik (247) 18 Jul 2007
I think I did a mistake joining this. People are just chickens here. Can't just make a team, let alone act on it.

Shaaaaaah!!!!

I did my part of sending flowers, at least I wont repend that i did not make an effort.

Good Luck!
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 18 Jul 2007
at least by doing something you know u tried, otherwise live with the "what if"
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Posted by june22perm (86) 18 Jul 2007
iliasATL , if you feel contacting Congress ppl and senators would help, PLEASE go ahead and do it. I have mentioned about contacting congreewoman Zoe Lofgren, in one of my previous posts (just scroll up a bit).

If you have contacts with any of those ppl, please share it here and we are more than happy to contact them as well
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Posted by vdlrao (246) 18 Jul 2007
Hi iliasATL ,


You are right and I already contacted the senator chambliss's office today morning. They said the one who looks these cases will get back to me tomorrow. lets see. But Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren is more aggressive on this immigaration issues than any body els. So if at all possible we better can reach her and explain our situation.
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Posted by june22perm (86) 18 Jul 2007
I have faxed and sent physical letters (through USPS certified mail) today to Renata, Zoe Lofgren, William Carlson.

Please join the effort ppl
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Posted by vdlrao (246) 18 Jul 2007
june22perm,
whats the fax no of Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren so that I can fax it right away.
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Posted by PD20024ever (146) 18 Jul 2007
Sent flowers to reach tomorrow

thanks
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Posted by june22perm (86) 18 Jul 2007
Here is the contact info for Zoe Lofgren. When called, their office ppl mentioned that physical letters (through post) are the best to reach her. E-mails will only generate an automated response.

District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700
Fax (408) 271-8713


Washington, D.C. Office
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
Fax (202) 225-3336
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 18 Jul 2007

Sent flowers to reach tomorrow

thanks




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Posted by spd123 (202) 18 Jul 2007
iliasATL,

I respect your opinion. I have had the very same opinion for a while and have changed mine too.
With 'flower campaign' we are just trying to motivate these 'government' employees atleast for a week or two so that a person certifying or processing 10 applications will process 12-14 instead. Even that is a 20-40% increase,which I think is significant.
We are letting them know our sense of urgency, who may not be aware of the situation at all.
If for nothing else, it's another stone in the dark. I'm not trying to convince you to send flowers to ATL, I'm requesting you not to discourage people who are trying to do so. I'm 200% sure that all these efforts will not go waste.

Regards!
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Posted by cherry57 (79) 18 Jul 2007
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Sent to Renata for delivery on 07/20
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Posted by vdlrao (246) 18 Jul 2007
I just faxed to Congress woman Zoe Loafgren to her D.C office and San Jose office.
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Posted by june22perm (86) 18 Jul 2007
Cool job ! Zoe Lofgren is also the Chair of the sub commitee of immigration. Hope she helps us
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Posted by GreenMe (10) 18 Jul 2007
Guys, great that we are doing a flower campaign ... I would like some media attention to it also ... thats what helped the previous campaign

But as some one mentioned earlier that Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren really pushed this ... I think we should send her fax and let her know our concerns ... I went thru her website and I think she really understand what we going thru ... infact USCIS called her up yesterday and told her that they are fixing the July 2nd issue ... So we should also bring Altanta Perm Center problem to her notice ...

We need a nicely drafted letter expressing our concern and to thank her for standing by us .... then we can fax it to her office. I am sure it will catch her attention ... and she will help us ...

Below are her Fax # Fax (408) 271-8713 (San Jose Office) and Fax (202) 225-3336 (DC office) ..

Is anyone up for this?
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Posted by gcindia76 (2) 18 Jul 2007
Hi All,

My Labor got approved today.
Field in Mar 20
Approved July 18
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Posted by GreenMe (10) 18 Jul 2007
I guess .. I am late to discuss this .. i see guys already doing this .. well anyways .. thats good ...
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 18 Jul 2007
any april 07 approval???????????????
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