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Topic: Whats wrong with ATL PERM Center
But is it legal to suit ATL on this slow processing issue. A lawyer can better help us if at all any body of us can contact a lawyer.
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We only let every body know that we will have a law suite again Atlanta...
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ATLANTA has a mandate to clear PERM cases as per a schedule, say 90 days (though PERM states 45-60 days approval, except audit cases).A wildfire news of a potential lawsuit through news media could do the trick. Considering we are all desperate, it is worth a try. If you guys have access to getting this potential class action law suit news in print, like the AILA lawsuit that was proposed after the July Visa Fiasco, we might get some response from DOL. The bottom line is Chicago & Atlanta report to the same authority, the DOL and any inconsistency in processing time that is not within reasonable limits (say a few days average difference in processing time) is unacceptable. It’s their screw up and we should not pay the price for it. ANY ONE DISAGREE
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vdlrao, OFLC - DOL is the responsible agency and Atl ctr falls under thier jurisdiction . . . .
I don't know about you but their SLOW process is ruining my career, i am stuck in the same job at the same low salary becuase if i change jobs, i will have to re-file . . . . the suffering is endless. We not only pay income tax, but also social security tax that you cannot claim once you retire unless you are a perm resident . . . there is also medicare tax or something
But is it legal to suit ATL on this slow processing issue. A lawyer can better help us if at all any body of us can contact a lawyer.
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pl. chk the Chicago tracker - PERM dated 7/18/07 was approved today!
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We should have a flag to do together.... I mean the law suit to push Atlanta... Save you and save all of us...
Do Law Suit ... Please add your name...
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come on ATL ctr, please read our feelings here and speed up your process.
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please send this link to them ...
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i suggest everyone email to ohlaw@immigration-law.com regarding what is printed on their web page "plea to DOL" and ask if they are actually in touch with DOL or just printing stuff. maybe oh-law will help bring out this issue soon if everyone emails.
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Who will draft a message about the law suite for Atlanta? ... and then everybody send this missage to DOL, Newspaper, lawyers, and other...
1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
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Who will draft a message about the law suite for Atlanta? ... and then everybody send this missage to DOL, Newspaper, lawyers, and other...
1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
Pl. also add my ID to the list.
I would like to suggest that we seek advice from an attorney (Mr. Berd, Mr. Oh, Ms. Murthy or someone else) AND wait to see what Atl Ctr does by end of 8/4/07. We may need a legal definition of "Group" - for e.g., how may people at minimum are needed to form a "Class"
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Law Suit against Atlanta Center...
1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
Please add your name here ....
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1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
6.vdlrao
Get a lawyer view on this first.
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1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
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7. GCanand
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1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
6. GCanand
7.vdlrao
please get engaged with a lawyer first.
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1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
6. GCanand
7.vdlrao
We shall let everybody know that we are doing something ....
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1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
6. GCanand
7.vdlrao
8. rakib123
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1. rugersll
2. shun666
3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
6. GCanand
7.vdlrao
We shall let everybody know that we are doing something ....
rutgersll,
Pl. ddo not contact the media yet. Let's wait until Friday, Aug 4th to see what or how may PERM cases are approved by Atl Ctr . . . . We also need to discuss w/ an attorney/s many of whom may all be busy filing the AOS for the lucky folks who got their labor certified in time . . . .
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I think we all should send mail to Georgia Senator Saxby Chambliss, United States Senator for Georgia and explain our issues.
http://www.senate.gov/~chambliss/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=HowCanWeHelp.CaseworkForm&CFID=51392169&CFTOKEN=14703251
// cut out from the web page
Any ideas
I'm always glad to help constituents who are encountering difficulties with federal agencies. My offices can act as a liaison between the citizens of Georgia and the federal government.
If you are having a problem with a federal office, in nearly all cases, it will be necessary for me to have from you a written and signed request for help which will enable a federal agency to relinquish information to me from your file. This is due to the Privacy Act of 1974. The purpose of the Privacy Act is to protect individual rights of citizens by prohibiting the release of personal information about them to unauthorized parties.
The written request should be addressed to Senator Chambliss and should state that you give permission for him to look into your concern. Your request can be made in the form of a letter or by completing a casework authorization form. The letter should contain your full name; mailing address; telephone number(s); Social Security number, file number or case number; signature of the person involved; and finally, all pertinent details of the case. It should be specific as to the exact nature of your request and the desired outcome. Also, please include copies of any pertinent documentation.
It is important to know that neither I, nor my staff, can approve a claim or appeal, or compel any agency to act in your favor. Those types of decisions by law are made by the federal agency involved based on the facts of the case. However, I am glad to obtain answers to your questions, to make the appropriate officials aware of your concerns, and to cut through "red tape" you might be experiencing.
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Folks , i am with you on this ... But waht i heard is that there is no mandate from ATL to clear of the cases in 90 days ..if it was there and anybody has got that mentioned in black & white ..pls bring it forward and we have a strong case to go ahead ... but for that we need to consult somebody before we get the campaign ... any thoughts ...
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I agree with pcshankar. We need to establish that DOL is obligated under current law to complete processing applications within 90 days. Without that the case won't hold water. Then again, I'm not an attorney.
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3. crazyperm
4. cooldown
5. MYGC2007
6. GCanand
7.vdlrao
8. rakib123
9. gcgcgcgc
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Guys The Number of the days is not important, The DOL is processing applications in a manner which is discriminating applicants based on their place of Employment. Justice is note done by DOL in Processing applications
Please Write this to Justice Department,attorney general, Vice President and President`s Office and Email every Senate , House Committe which Deals with Labour,Immigration ,Equal Employment and Opportunity , Civil Rights
Do this not
Its Now or Never
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Guys The Number of the days is not important, The DOL is processing applications in a manner which is discriminating applicants based on their place of Employment. Justice is note done by DOL in Processing applications
Please Write this to Justice Department,attorney general, Vice President and President`s Office and Email every Senate , House Committe which Deals with Labour,Immigration ,Equal Employment and Opportunity , Civil Rights
Do this not
Its Now or Never
permatl, Exactly my point too!
When Chicago can process cases in 7 - 20 days how can Atlanta take 130~ days? It is hard to believe that cases in East Coast are more complex than the ones in the West coast.
I have been emailing, phoning DOL & Atl Ctr every day without success since the original July bulletin was released on June 13,2007.
My PD is Apr 6, 2007
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Hello Guys
Can Every one of us email and call Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions - 428 Senate Dirksen Office Building - Washington, DC 20510 - Phone (202) 224-5375
The labor Department comes under this committe and also contact the Committe Chairmen Edwards M. Kennedy and Ranking Member Michael Enzi
and we can all cordinate calls to all their office at same time (One call after other, which might Impact a little bit)
If we agree to this we can decide a time slot and make calls
Please send your Input
We need to this as soon as we can
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I strongly agree to this. I am in.
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I think DOS should extend the date till all of July's PERM cleared from Atlanta.
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Until we get media's notice, nobody will care of us. Just like july 2's situation.
I have sent emails to everyone, called, but no response.
I think they are aware very well, but they just dont do anything, they dont feel any presure as long as they are not exposed to media.
What we should do? I am so sad.
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I think the only guy who can help us is Kennedy, He is a liberal and supports the rights of Legal and illegal Immigrants
So guys Please Help to Contact him
We all Can call his office and Comittee one by one
If you are ready please post message
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To tell the truth, we have been emailing, calling, writing for such a long time already. If they haven't speed up a little bit like in the past few weeks, I really don't see how anything could help us get on this bus.
In the long run, it might helps, but I give up this time.
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Is it possible that we do the law suit? We want require the following:
1. ask DOL to approve all cases before July 31 in time.
2. let USCIS to extend the enough time for the cases in law suit.
We can't file our 485 because Atlanta don't approve our cases... We should fight ... and let every body know our pain....
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How we can do that? what is the starting point?
Guys pls act fast!
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Guys I think calling 911 will help. Try tat too. All these are not going to help to make ATL move faster. They are screwed....God bless....
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Calling 911 :-p
thats an ultimate idea...
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Please list the detail of your actions... Including the phone number, fax number, email address, name and position .... We need to trace all the actions from now
It is also easy to let more people to follow .....
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Calling 911 is the current plan :) Do it man thats what we are left with. Or else lets do a HAVAN. Or there is another plan. Lets go to ATL DOL and fall at their feet and request them to help us out from the mess. Please advice guys which plan did u all like?
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My Idea is to call this number (202) 224-5375 ( Its Senate comittee on Labor)
starting at 3:00 EST today, Please call this number and complaint about Discrimination Done by DOL
Please start making call at 3:00 EST
If you get Busy tone, TRY TRY TRY TRY and make as many call as you can and ask help from your friends or family to make calls , i am trying to call with 10-15 people, Please do that
Thanks
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1) Send emails to or call your local senators
2) Send emails to or call the senator that are famous in fighting for immigration/government, like Kennedy, Saxby
3) Send emails to or call DOL and related agencies
4) Send emails to or call local/national media
5) Ask lawyer whether we can sue Atlanta center?
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Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Chairman
Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee
428 Dirksen Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510-6300
TEL: (202) 224-5375, Majority Staff: (202) 224-6770, Minority Staff:
(202)224-0767 FAX: (202) 228-5044
E-MAIL: greggstaff@labor.senate.gov
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Thats old one , Now democrats are in control of the comittee
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Help_comments@help.senate.gov Senate comittee on Labor
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Call 911 that will help....
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These are the following options we have : i might have missed out some , pls add them
After the fact that we are denied: Law Suit
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Requires the following actions :
a ) Verify whether we can do it with a attorney.
b) Get support from as many possible from insisde and outside (law firms).
Now at this Stage:
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a) Bring media attention to the issue by publising this.
b) make all people aware of the issue in Atlanta to speed up.
c) messaging all the concerned at ATlanta DOL.
d) get some external help for us in representing us to ATLANTA like some AILA folks ....
If there are any more , pls mention we can start working on it ... its better to put all our efforts together and target one area were we have good success rate instead of just all going different directions.
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How about sending mails to Hillary Clinton/Obama?
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Who will draft a message that we can forward to media?
We can focus on the following:
Being unfair...
Preparing a law suit ....
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pcsankar73, I agree w/ the options you have listed.
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