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Topic: Whats wrong with ATL PERM Center
It would be helpful to summarize the difference between the two centers in the body of the msg to higlight the disparity and lack of fairness - For e.g.,
Avg processing time in Atlanta = #days
Vs.
Avg processing time in Chicago = # days
May be Trackitt Administrator can help us w/ the statistics? How many cases, mean/median processing time at each center, etc.
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Friends,
Lets us today take the 3 actions items for ourselves for the next 1 hr :
But this is for all of us .. We all know we are doing this on a daily basis ..but lets make it a habit everyday morning ..Once we all complete this ,
we can start on the next item ... Hope that way we have some thing accomplished everyday ...
1. Sending mails to media
2. Sending mails to All in DOL
3. Sending mails to AILA
The email ids are here ..Pls put all in the to list itself:
The DRAFT i am using is below :
PERM.DFLC@dol.gov , secretaryelainechao@dol.gov , PLC.Atlanta@dol.gov, etapagemaster@dol.gov , carlson.william@dol.gov, plc.chicago@dol.gov , jbeverly@doleta.gov,
pasternak.brian@dol.gov, Jean-Pierre.Isabel@dol.gov, Henderson.Mada@dol.gov, aberd@berdklauss.com, secretaryelainechao@dol.gov , prakash.khatri@dhs.gov ,
Cisombudsman@dhs.gov, adjibodou.renata@dol.gov , law@murthy.com, aberd@berdklauss.com , info@immigrationvoice.org, letters@washpost.com , newstip@wsbtv.com ,
b.grueskin@wsj.com , j.heller@wsj.com , t.cullen@wsj.com , j.fry@wsj.com, news-tips@nytimes.com, bizday@nytimes.com, foreign@nytimes.com, metro@nytimes.com,
national@nytimes.com, washington@nytimes.com, executive-editor@nytimes.com, managing-editor@nytimes.com, nytnews@nytimes.com, oped@nytimes.com, editorial@nytimes.com,
letters@washpost.com, national@washpost.com, foreign@washpost.com, letters@nypost.com
Dear Sir / Madam,
This is regarding the labor certification process at the Atlanta PERM Processing Center.
The DOL is not seem to be processing applications in a timebound manner.
Most applications are older than 90 days and are still pending without being processed.
We can understand the above mentioned facts as we are part of a forum of Atlanta Perm Applicants.
and pls find below the contrast details of the 2 processing centers in handling our applications.
Atlanta Perm tracker : http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/atlanta-perm-tracker/
Chicago Perm Tracker : http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/chicago-perm-tracker/
Pls make it fair enough for all applicants and resolve this issue as early as possible.
As a legal, tax-paying and productive members of society, many careers are stalled by this seemingly never ending unfair wait in the American legal immigration system
and is very discouraging and possibly detrimental to the interest of the American global economy in the 21st century.
Also Just wanted to bring this posting in the web site to your attention: http://www.immigration-law.com
The same message from the web site has been copied here for a quick reference:
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07/24/2007: USCIS Generous Interpretation of Priority Date Based July 2007 EB-485 Filing Eligibility and Our Urge for OFLC's Certification of PERM Applications Before 08/17/2007
The USCIS FAQ indicates that those who filed a PERM application in July 2007 establishing his/her priority date and and will receive cerification of these PERM applications will be eligible to file a concurrent I-140/EB-485 application on or before August 17, 2007. The current DOS and USCIS actions following the July 2007 VB fiasco is giving a life-time opportunity for these filers to file EB-485 applications such that during the forthcoming long backlogs in adjudication of their applications, they could at least work and travel internationally using EAD and Advance Parole, and when they should be laid off, they could still complete the green card process inasmuch as they would find a similar job after 180 days of filing of the EB-485 applications. We thus urge the leaders of the Office of Foreign Labor Certification, particularly Dr. William Carlson, Chief of the National Program of U.S. Department of Labor, to acclerate the July PERM applications such that they are certified at least within the first two weeks of August 2007. We also urge the AILA to work with the OFLC to seek such cooperation from the agency. As affected by the surge of H-2B applications, we understand that Atlanta National Processing Center has been experiencing some delays in the processing of PERM applications and we strongly urge the Atlanta Center leaders to consider the current exigent circumstances and to accelerate the July 2007 cases adjudication within the next two weeks. Those who should desperately seek such help will include:
Those who have already filed and are waiting for the certification at this time.
Those who will file the PERM application on or before July 31, 2007 in the next one week. Those employers who will complete the required recruitment process by July 31, 2007 should make it sure that the PERM applications be filed online "on or before" July 31, 2007 so that once the PERM application is certified in the first two weeks of August, they submit the concurrent I-140 and EB-485 applications "swfitly" not missing the deadline of August 17, 2007. These aliens may also want to prepare for such potential opportunity and start collection of required supporting documentation in preparation for the situation. This will be particularly true for EB-3 filers as they are the ones who will suffer the most from the upcoming severe visa retrogression in coming years.
We thank in advance for Dr. Carlson's special attention to this request on behalf of the U.S. employers and the foreign workers.
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we would be very grateful if this issue can be addressed quickly.
Thanking you in advance,
Best Regards,
Applicant -Atlanta PERM Center
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The First Item Completed:
1. pcsankar73
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One suggestion if everyone would agree - lets put all the emails ID's in the "To", so when someone from foregin labor sees the mail, they know that news media and higher authorities have been copied and would understand that is made highly visible.
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I did analysis from Trackitt data ...
All approval cases filed after March 01, 2007
In Chicago center, 111 cases were approval with average 12.7 Days
In Atlanta center, 66 cases were approval with average 103.2 Days..
Chicago Atlanta
Mean (Days) 12.71171171 103.2272727
Variance 146.2615889 1031.993706
Observations 111 66
F 0.14172721
P(F
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Also we need to come up with a flashy subject line something like - Injustice at Atlanta PERM processing center.
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Good , Subject line is important.
but if
1. All make same subject line -- if they read one mail then they can pretty much delete all of them . But it has its own advantages saying all from a same group of affected people being standing together.
2. if all different subject line might make it diffficult to delete and may some times will look not much coordination...
Anybodiies thoughts are welcome ... we will all stick to whatever everybody feels is a good idea
I used the Subject : Atlanta Perm processing : Delays / Issues :
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rutgersll, this analysis is great and SUBSTANTIATES our point that there is a lack of fairness in the labor certification process
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The First Item Completed:
1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
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I have emailed/faxed/phoned DOL today - been the 1st task of my day since 6/15/2007! Can email media in the evening.
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Friends,
TIme is running out ..today is thursday and if atall if there can be any work done by ATLANTA then its today ..tommorow being friday we ususlaly dont see any updates and they take a god nap ... and all we will see late the monday and we will loose lots of precious time ..lets use this day effectively.
1. lets add the analysis by Rutgersell in the Draft
2. Put a Flashy subject line as we all feel appropriate and lets us complete them now itself... we will make this day count with those emails and we can start to work on any other plan s for today ....
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send mail to Atlanta Journal new tip @ newstips@ajc.com and also call them , If we do this today we can expect some news in that tomorrow provided they receive mails about it form many people
Thank you for contacting The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
We want to verify that we have received your e-mail. Our office hours are Monday-Friday 8 a.m.- 6 p.m. We strive to get back to you within hours during our regular business day. You can expect to hear from one of our Customer Care Representatives very soon.
** Personalize your news **
http://www.myajc.com
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So every one is using pcsankar73's draft?
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I meant to say... Is any one going to add/edit that or is that fianl draft?
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Hi Every body. we can do this thing on monday.
Every monday 9 P.M I dont know whether it is est or not but murthy comes to the online chat. we all request them to pressurize ATL center or request them to bring this issue to AILA. If more people ask the same question she might help us.Can any body prepare the message that we can ask her on monday. I think every body knows about murthy chat.
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Hello guys i did just speak to Atlanta Journal Immigration reporter Mary Pickle
at 404-526-7003 or toll free at 1-866-988-NEWS
Please call them and speak to her or leave a voice maill regarding the matter
Let see if that works
Call that number and say that you have a new tip regarding Immigration and wants to speak to Maru Pickle and the office thats processing the applications is in Atlanta
Thanks
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Re. Statistics: I think we only need -
Chicago vs. Atlanta
Chicago Mean (Days) 12.7, number of observattions 111
Atlanta Mean (Days) 103.2, number of observattions 66
Above analysis based on a sample of cases processed by Chicago and Atlanta centers since March 2007
We can omit the statistical variance, P/F statistic etc.
On Average it takes 91 more days for Atlants to process a case!
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Thank you for your message, create a message about it on our blog section to make people more aware – go to our home page and fill out the form with the information you just sent me. I’ll pass your concerns along so we can see if there is anything else we can do on this. But please make the posting so people can see it and become more aware.
Respectfully,
Drew Seman
Immigrants’ List
This is what i got , can some one do this
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The First Item Completed:
1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
Subject: Injustice to legal immigrants at Atlanta Perm processing center
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Lets us all do that ..looks a good idea to me :
1. Monday Chat
2. Speaking to Atlanta Journal etc ..
But did we all complete the emails that we need to do for today ... Time is flying ... I just saw 2 names ...
I remember a short story .Once there was a king who wanted to test the unity & loyality of his people ..so asked everybody who is only willing enough to pour a cup of Milk into a Pond during a dark night time.Assuming that other person will pour milk , most of the people just added a cup of water instead of milk.
And so the end ended ..Next day when the pond was inspected , the king could see only water with some white tint.
Moral : if we all put some efforts and stand together on what we speak & do then there is a chance we can make it through ,otherwise all of our efforts will get diluted by each other and result in a total loss for everybody.
lets us make some united efforts ...
Pls send emails & add names .. lets take it out of our plate and start other ideas flowing ....
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The First Item Completed:
1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
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I added the statistical analysis in this draft ....
Dear Sir / Madam,
This is regarding the labor certification process at the Atlanta PERM Processing Center.
The DOL is not seem to be processing applications in a timebound manner.
Most applications are older than 90 days and are still pending without being processed.
We can understand the above mentioned facts as we are part of a forum of Atlanta Perm Applicants.
and pls find below the contrast details of the 2 processing centers in handling our applications.
Atlanta Perm tracker : http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/atlanta-perm-tracker/
Chicago Perm Tracker : http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/chicago-perm-tracker/
Chicago vs. Atlanta
Chicago Mean (Days) 12.7, number of observattions 111
Atlanta Mean (Days) 103.2, number of observattions 66
Above analysis based on a sample of cases filed to Chicago and Atlanta centers (from trackitt.com) since March 2007
Pls make it fair enough for all applicants and resolve this issue as early as possible.
As a legal, tax-paying and productive members of society, many careers are stalled by this seemingly never ending unfair wait in the American legal immigration system
and is very discouraging and possibly detrimental to the interest of the American global economy in the 21st century.
Also Just wanted to bring this posting in the web site to your attention: http://www.immigration-law.com
The same message from the web site has been copied here for a quick reference:
==================================================================
07/24/2007: USCIS Generous Interpretation of Priority Date Based July 2007 EB-485 Filing Eligibility and Our Urge for OFLC's Certification of PERM Applications Before 08/17/2007
The USCIS FAQ indicates that those who filed a PERM application in July 2007 establishing his/her priority date and and will receive cerification of these PERM applications will be eligible to file a concurrent I-140/EB-485 application on or before August 17, 2007. The current DOS and USCIS actions following the July 2007 VB fiasco is giving a life-time opportunity for these filers to file EB-485 applications such that during the forthcoming long backlogs in adjudication of their applications, they could at least work and travel internationally using EAD and Advance Parole, and when they should be laid off, they could still complete the green card process inasmuch as they would find a similar job after 180 days of filing of the EB-485 applications. We thus urge the leaders of the Office of Foreign Labor Certification, particularly Dr. William Carlson, Chief of the National Program of U.S. Department of Labor, to acclerate the July PERM applications such that they are certified at least within the first two weeks of August 2007. We also urge the AILA to work with the OFLC to seek such cooperation from the agency. As affected by the surge of H-2B applications, we understand that Atlanta National Processing Center has been experiencing some delays in the processing of PERM applications and we strongly urge the Atlanta Center leaders to consider the current exigent circumstances and to accelerate the July 2007 cases adjudication within the next two weeks. Those who should desperately seek such help will include:
Those who have already filed and are waiting for the certification at this time.
Those who will file the PERM application on or before July 31, 2007 in the next one week. Those employers who will complete the required recruitment process by July 31, 2007 should make it sure that the PERM applications be filed online "on or before" July 31, 2007 so that once the PERM application is certified in the first two weeks of August, they submit the concurrent I-140 and EB-485 applications "swfitly" not missing the deadline of August 17, 2007. These aliens may also want to prepare for such potential opportunity and start collection of required supporting documentation in preparation for the situation. This will be particularly true for EB-3 filers as they are the ones who will suffer the most from the upcoming severe visa retrogression in coming years.
We thank in advance for Dr. Carlson's special attention to this request on behalf of the U.S. employers and the foreign workers.
=======================================================================
we would be very grateful if this issue can be addressed quickly.
Thanking you in advance,
Best Regards,
Applicant -Atlanta PERM Center
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This is for passive onlookers....only you can help yourself...pls join us in this email campaign...more number of emails the more visibility we would get....imgaine if we can send atleast 100 emails....that would get great attention both from DOL and from Media...
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The First Item Completed:
1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
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Can we send this email from our official email id. Or are you guys using a dummy mail id without your name on it.?
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we use official email id...
I sent ....
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I am using my personal email id
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The First Item Completed:
1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
93 more...come guys...
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Done
1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6.permatl
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mailed everyone in the list
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
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91 more to go...comeon guys....we can make it happen...pls send email now !
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
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Emailed from multiple Id's
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Atlanta Chicago
Mean (Days) 125.4916667 13.7
Variance 3446.184804 348.7189873
Observations 120 80
F 9.882412283
This analysis is based all approval cases after June 01, 2007
120 Cases were approval after June 01, 2007 with 125.5 days in Atlanta
80 Cases were approval after June 01, 2007 with 13.7 days in Chicago
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. tankbund
sent a copy of the e-mail draft above to all the e-mail addresses in the list
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. Mobile2007
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. tankbund
12. Mobile2007
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. mygc2007
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. tankbund
12. Mobile2007
13. ctctncy
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. tankbund
12. Mobile2007
13. Call 911 and complain them about this mess....
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. tankbund
12. Mobile2007
13. ctctncy
wonderful...87 more to go...
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. tankbund
12. Mobile2007
13. ctctncy
14. GcWaiting2007
wonderful...86 more to go...
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Pls act now....just one approval yesterday and none today so far...
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1. pcsankar73
2. manoharc
3. cherry57
4.my421
5. cooldown
6. kalpanalulay
7. rutgersll
8.permatl
9. cheeduv
10.crazyperm
11. tankbund
12. Mobile2007
13. ctctncy
14. GcWaiting2007
15. mygc2007
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