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Topic: Whats wrong with ATL PERM Center
Great guys. com'on. I hope ALL of you realize this is the last chance. Unfotunately we had to shake our leg and let the last few men hanging go. if we cant even pull ourselves up now, it will be shame.
SEND SEND SEND SEND SEND SEND.
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1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
Just sent the latest email draft to the updated email address list.
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1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
19. cmphr (sent emails with 2 ids)
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1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar ( creating 40 email ids my blast time 11:30 to 12 noon and 3 to 3:30 pm)
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
19. cmphr (sent emails with 2 ids)
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1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker ( I am keep on sending the mails...)
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar ( creating 40 email ids my blast time 11:30 to 12 noon and 3 to 3:30 pm)
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
19. cmphr (sent emails with 2 ids)
Did anyone get any positive responce????
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1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar ( creating 40 email ids my blast time 11:30 to 12 noon and 3 to 3:30 pm)
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
19. cmphr (sent emails with 2 ids)
20. CatchTheBall
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We should get the approval latest by 13th of August, Other wise it will be a tight situation to file concurrently with hard copy of labor certification within 17th???? Still the trend is very bad, and losing hope....
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I got like 50 bounced emails - are the email addresses correct? Can someone paste a correct list of email addresses?
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Let us prepare more email ids and post here... Let's begin another round sending job this afternoon...
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Let us prepare more email ids and post here... Let's begin another round sending job this afternoon...
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Attorney Murthy Sends Follow-Up Letter to Michael Chertoff:
She is asking for USCIS filing date to be extended by just two weeks, until Friday, August 31, 2007.
Hopefully USCIS accepts this request.
Check out:
http://murthy.com/news/n_chert2.html
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1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar ( creating 40 email ids my blast time 11:30 to 12 noon and 3 to 3:30 pm)
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
19. cmphr (sent emails with 2 ids)
20. CatchTheBall
21. Crazyperm
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Talked to my wife last night. Both of us will join the rally. It's my honor to fight side by side with you all.
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I guess more email ids will do the trick than sending multiple times. I have already done with 20 and I am going to create another 20. I will be sending it out starting 11:30
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guys please come up with names that apprear to be real names on the email.
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we need more DOL email ids... Let's find them...
Griffin.John@dol.gov
Hersh.Joseph@dol.gov
Garner.Garfield@dol.gov
Opitz.Steve@dol.gov
Benewich.Terrence@dol.gov
Longeuay.Michael@dol.gov
Get Certified!! Thanks all of them... You will get it soon...
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Lets start campaigning for July 31 st PD too, That way eveybody can have benefit from it
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Subj: DOL FEDERAL REGULATION *** (keep it this way.)
Dear Dr. Carlson,
I write to you in hopes that you will not only hear, but understand, the CRITICAL nature of our concern regarding processing times at OFLC, DOL-Atlanta. We simply ask that you
1. Complete processing of pending PERM applications for applications with priority dates before July 31st, 2007, based on ‘Federal Register / Vol. 69, No. 247 / Monday, December 27, 2004 / Rules and Regulations’ published at http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/PERM_Final_Rule_12-27-04_FR.pdf
2. WE STRONGLY URGE that, DOL request USCIS to allow acceptance of Adjustment of Status petitions from beneficiaries of FLC with PD on/ before June 30, 2007 EVEN AFTER their deadline of Aug 17, 2007, if, today, managers of OFLC, Atlanta foresee that they will not be able to grant such benefits to beneficiaries of FLC applications with PD on/before July 31st, 2007
We request Dr. William Carlson to consider our plea and propose the following:
1. As per your guidelines and more importantly "Regulation", "Any and all applications WILL automatically receive a computer generated "Certification" within 45-60 days, unless selected for audit".
2. Due to recent changes in USCIS policies, which evidently is the next step for ALL FLC beneficiaries, it has become very vital that DOL follows laws and regulations laid out in the Federal Register more strictly than ever.
3. As OFLC, DOL-Atlanta has been busy doing other work, thousands of permanent FLC beneficiaries will not be able to file Adjustment of Status applications timely and will be victims of "high retrogression".
4. Moreover, as a PERM center is chosen just as a matter of where the petitioner operates, beneficiaries from other than DOL- Atlanta PERM center (Chicago) have been able to take advantage of this positive change in USCIS policies, which is ABSOLUTELY UNFAIR.
5. Therefore, we appeal to the lawmakers that this parity not be accepted and I on behalf of all beneficiaries of FLC applications at DOL-Atlanta propose the following:
i) As per the law, OFLC, DOL - Atlanta WILL make their best efforts to approve ALL FLC applications with PD on/before June 30, 2007 by Aug 17, so that more legal and tax-paying workers of this country who seek immigration benefits may do so.
ii) Given the fact that, had OFLC, DOL-Atlanta worked on their normal pace and followed the Federal Regulations, there would have been a great possibility that all correctly filed FLC applications with PD before July 31st, 2007 WOULD HAVE BEEN approved by Aug 17, 2007, enabling their beneficiaries to proceed and file necessary petitions with the USCIS.
I hope you understand that it is critical and that while for Atlanta center it may just be a few extra hours of work, it means YEARS of living in uncertainty for those who will not be able to benefit from this opportunity presented by USCIS.
We urge Dr. William Carlson, that you keep what you promised, and complete processing of ALL pending FLC applications with priority date on/before July 31st, 2007.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Sincerely,
PERM Applicant
OFLC, DOL-Atlanta
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For me it seems theres a pretty possibility that I-485 applications will be accepted till Aug 31st if not atleast a week after the dead line means till Aug 24. Its imminent!!!!!!!!
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I think if Murphy or ALIA can ask USCIS to accept 485 based on PD or file date no matter when it is approved that will be great.
Say, A's LC was filed in 2006, but it is not approved until 09/20/2007,
B's LC was filed in April 2007, and is approved on 07/01/2007.
Then B is able to file I-485 while A is not.
It is not A's problem that his LC takes long time, it is DOL's.
Gorvenment should consider this.
For fairness I would think USCIS should accept A's I-485 even in Octomer, 2007.
This is probably too ideal to be realistic.
It is just my thought. But it won't hurt to mention it to Murphy or ALIA, etc.
thanks
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Total 7 approval of 07-31-2007
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toosensitive ,
Your idea is really good.
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Even one week extention is also very good.
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I presume there would be one week extension for sure. May be two weeks also but not sure about two weeks!!!!!!!
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rutgersll got certified man
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yes, His idea is good.
But how can we convey this idea to USCIS.
We need to take help of some attorney's or some good groups like AILA and IV.
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Hey rutgersll,
Congrats man. Finally you made it. We all miss you and your efforts here :). Any ways all the best.
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vdlroa ,, is there any mention about extension..i saw Murthy's recommendation but i am not sure USICS will extend any more at this point... pls specify if anybody has informed abt extensions ..any threads or links pls
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Jayperm,
Its my strong belief. Nothing more than that.
Thanks.
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Please check the message from murthy to Cheroff
July 31, 2007
©MurthyDotCom
VIA FEDERAL EXPRESS
©MurthyDotCom
Michael Chertoff, Esq.
Secretary
Department of Homeland Security
245 Murray Lane SW
Washington DC 20528-0300
©MurthyDotCom
RE: USCIS Decision to Accept I-485 Filings
©MurthyDotCom
Dear Honorable Secretary Chertoff:
©MurthyDotCom
Thank you for prevailing upon the concerned officials to render the decision of July 17, 2007, to allow the USCIS to accept I-485/ Adjustment of Status filings based upon the July Visa Bulletin, until August 17, 2007. If my July 12, 2007 letter was strongly worded, as you may know, it was from the perspective of a person who is eternally grateful for the incredible opportunities afforded me in this great nation; of a person who believes in the "rule of law," and of the U.S. being the beacon of hope for the rest of the world. On behalf of thousands of our own law firm's clients, as well as many members of the immigrant community and the U.S. business community, we want you to know that we appreciate your leadership and courage in this bold move to reverse the earlier USCIS decision.
©MurthyDotCom
Reversing the earlier, July 2nd, decision will go a long way toward showing that the leadership has the courage to stand up, acknowledge their error, and then follow through to resolve problems in an ongoing dialogue in good faith. This will help to reestablish the credibility of the USCIS as the agency created to provide "service" to the millions of immigrants seeking to file for immigration benefits and with U.S. employers that rely on the system to work in a consistent and fair manner.
©MurthyDotCom
Remaining Problem:
Potential Adjustment Applicants Stranded Abroad
©MurthyDotCom
We further appreciate the USCIS's ongoing efforts to set policies and procedures to ameliorate the damage caused by their actions in July. In that regard, there is a remaining, unresolved issue creating undue hardship because of the USCIS's actions in connection with the July Visa Bulletin. It concerns individuals and families who had made plans to travel abroad for the summer in June 2007. After mid June, these I-485 eligible individuals and families canceled their plans when the July Visa Bulletin was issued on June 12, 2007. Many of these individuals re-booked their tickets after the July 2nd announcement, and traveled abroad before July 17th. Some of these individuals are now stuck abroad, unable to return in time, due to their need for visa appointments at the consulates for H-1/H-4 or L-1/L-2 or other work visas. They must await visa appointments at the U.S. consulates, where the summer rush of visa applicants limits appointment availability. These individuals are unable to obtain their nonimmigrant visas abroad in time to return and meet the August 17th deadline for filing their I-485 applications.
©MurthyDotCom
Potential Options for this Affected Group
©MurthyDotCom
One option to address this problem would be to instruct the CBP to grant parole generously to these individuals or families, so that they can enter the U.S. without the nonimmigrant visa and promptly file their I-485s. This decision would have to be communicated properly, so that airlines would know to allow these individuals to board and CBP inspectors at airports must be thoroughly trained on this matter. Another option is for the USCIS filing date to be extended by just two weeks, until Friday, August 31, 2007, for at least this limited group of individuals who are stuck abroad because they relied on the July 2, 2007 USCIS decision.
©MurthyDotCom
Thank you, once again, for doing the right thing for American employers and recognizing the contributions of the highly skilled, educated, hard working immigrants who have played by the rules. Your decision and actions have restored faith in the integrity of our government and for that we remain grateful to you.
©MurthyDotCom
Very truly yours,
©MurthyDotCom
Sheela Murthy
President and Founder
©MurthyDotCom
Cc: Emilio T. Gonzalez, Esq., Director, USCIS
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Please read this:.....
Another option is for the USCIS filing date to be extended by just two weeks, until Friday, August 31, 2007, for at least this limited group of individuals who are stuck abroad because they relied on the July 2, 2007 USCIS decision.
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1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar ( creating 40 email ids my blast time 11:30 to 12 noon and 3 to 3:30 pm)
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
19. cmphr (sent emails with 2 ids)
20. CatchTheBall
21. Crazyperm
22.my421(3 ids)
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Did a blast.
1. DSIKKA
2. RUTGERS
3. GCGCGCGC
4. SACHINT
5. ps57002
6. cooldown
7. lctracker
8. gbmsz
9. ganvenkar ( creating 40 email ids my blast time 11:30 to 12 noon and 3 to 3:30 pm)
10. bhiti
11.vdlrao (sent yesterday 10 p.m)
12. lucky29
13. pcsankar73
14. Rutgers (sent out with 6 email ids)
15. kalpanalulay
16. ctctncy (emails sent out at 9:00 am)
17. lastchance07
18. GcWaiting2007
19. cmphr (sent emails with 2 ids)
20. CatchTheBall
21. Crazyperm
22.my421
23. ravis
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murthy is fighting for those stuck outside usa and unable to, not our case scenario. even if uscis listened to her it may only allow those cases, not us...sorry am not optismistic with murthy trying...
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GUYS,
lets focus on June 30. Lets not get carried away. You cant always pull up the the last man hanging! It is unfotunate, but is fair as well.
Ours is a plea to Dr. Carlson NOT a demand that we keep it raising. PLEASE stick to the above draft n send emails.
Please guys sdont loose focus here. LASt chance to make a difference, not get carried away
SEND EMAILS.
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Guys,
If you are not going to jump on me - As someone who actively participated in the E-Mail campaign for the past few days, let me suggest something
I think we have bombarded with enough emails taking our plight. Now, do u think DOL or DOLETA would still be reading our mails and not marked them as SPAM so it directly goes to their junk folder. Imagine, if you were to receive hundreds of emails, first day you would open and read, second day when you receive hundreds you are going to mark them as SPAM and never open it...I bet thats what is happening with DOL also. There is no doubt our email campaign was a GREAT SUCCESS...looking at the approvals on last friday we did send a message.....Since last week, email campaign did loose some steam - Now, we need look for more effective means of getting our message. I'm going to be doing three things
1) Send FAX to DOL washington. Attn: Madam Secretary and Attn: Dr. Carlson
2) Send FAX to DOLETA in Atlanta
3) Send registered mail to washington
I'm sure they would atleast take time to read atleast couple of faxes and letters and this way we can get our message more effectively.
If you all agree with me, pls do fax and mail out the letter. Its just that what we are doing should yield some results. But if you guys still beleive email campaign will work, pls continue doing so.
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Not a bad idea, Lets start Fax compaign from today
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you are right.
we should have other modes of communicating as well. fax is nice.
can someone find fax # to Dr. William Carlson's office in DC?
RENATA IN ATL also?
We will print our email draft and mass blast their fax machine this time.
good idea guys. keep going do whatever it takes. THEY WILL LISTEN.
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Dr. William Carlson
Fax# 202-693-2768
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Guys, I hv formatted the below letter to fit one page in MS word document. We need to keep our message within a page -
Attn: Madam Secretary, Secretary of Labor, Washington
1 August 2007
Respected Madam,
This is regarding the labor certification process at the Atlanta PERM Processing Center. PERM is supposed to be a fast-track labor certification process, but most applications at Atlanta Perm processing center are older than 90 days and are still pending without being processed.
The Department of Labor (DOL) handles PERM applications, and it's clear that they are not processing applications in a timely manner and also not following the below PERM federal regulation –
Federal Register / Vol. 69, No. 247 / Monday, December 27, 2004 / Rules and Regulations
If an application has not been selected for audit, and satisfies all other reviews, the application will be certified and returned to the employer. The employer must immediately sign the application and then submit the certified application to DHS in support of an employment-based I–140 petition. We anticipate an electronically filed application not selected for audit will have a computer-generated decision within 45 to 60 days of the date the application was initially filed.
If an application is selected for audit, the employer will be notified and ..
ref: page 4, center column, 1st paragraph.
Atlanta applicants are currently tracking their cases on a forum and they have found huge disparity in the processing times for Chicago and Atlanta processing centers. Below is the average processing times for the two processing centers:
Chicago: Average 12.7 days for 111 cases since March 2007
Atlanta: Average 103.2 days for 66 cases since March 2007
Atlanta PERM tracker: http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/atlanta-perm-tracker/
Chicago PERM Tracker: http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/chicago-perm-tracker/
The difference in processing times for Chicago and Atlanta processing centers is unfair, and it goes against the very fabric of American values. In America, we believe in fair and equal opportunities to all individuals. Then why are these delays not being addressed? This delay in processing at the Atlanta center is affecting the lives of thousands of legal, tax-paying, productive members of the society because their careers are stalled as they wait for their labor approvals.
There is a great window of opportunity available for all of us to file for our green cards (I-140 and I-485 applications) until 17 August 2007, but we are unable to do so because we need our PERM applications to be approved before we can file I-140 and I-485.
We request you to resolve this delay with Atlanta PERM processing center ASAP and help us with our great American dream.
Best Regards,
Atlanta PERM applicants
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Agency Contact: William L. Carlson, Chief, Division of Foreign Labor
Certification, Department of Labor, Employment and Training
Administration, 200 Constitution Avenue NW., Room C4312 FP Building,
Washington, DC 20210
Phone: 202 693-3010
Fax: 202 693-2768
Email: carlson.william@dol.gov
Renata J. Adjibodou,
U.S. Department of Labor
Employment and Training Administration
Harris Tower
233 Peachtree Street, Suite 410
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
Phone: (404) 893-0101
Fax: (404) 893-4642
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JUST FAXED OUR LETTER TO BOTH.
1. dsikka
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FAX ADRESSES
Dr.William L. Carlson, Chief, Division of Foreign Labor
Fax: 202 693-2768
Renata J. Adjibodou,
Fax: (404) 893-4642
SAMPLE LETTER
Attn: Madam Secretary, Secretary of Labor, Washington
1 August 2007
Respected Madam,
This is regarding the labor certification process at the Atlanta PERM Processing Center. PERM is supposed to be a fast-track labor certification process, but most applications at Atlanta Perm processing center are older than 90 days and are still pending without being processed.
The Department of Labor (DOL) handles PERM applications, and it's clear that they are not processing applications in a timely manner and also not following the below PERM federal regulation –
Federal Register / Vol. 69, No. 247 / Monday, December 27, 2004 / Rules and Regulations
If an application has not been selected for audit, and satisfies all other reviews, the application will be certified and returned to the employer. The employer must immediately sign the application and then submit the certified application to DHS in support of an employment-based I–140 petition. We anticipate an electronically filed application not selected for audit will have a computer-generated decision within 45 to 60 days of the date the application was initially filed.
If an application is selected for audit, the employer will be notified and ..
ref: page 4, center column, 1st paragraph.
Atlanta applicants are currently tracking their cases on a forum and they have found huge disparity in the processing times for Chicago and Atlanta processing centers. Below is the average processing times for the two processing centers:
Chicago: Average 12.7 days for 111 cases since March 2007
Atlanta: Average 103.2 days for 66 cases since March 2007
Atlanta PERM tracker: http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/atlanta-perm-tracker/
Chicago PERM Tracker: http://www.trackitt.com/usa-immigration-trackers/chicago-perm-tracker/
The difference in processing times for Chicago and Atlanta processing centers is unfair, and it goes against the very fabric of American values. In America, we believe in fair and equal opportunities to all individuals. Then why are these delays not being addressed? This delay in processing at the Atlanta center is affecting the lives of thousands of legal, tax-paying, productive members of the society because their careers are stalled as they wait for their labor approvals.
There is a great window of opportunity available for all of us to file for our green cards (I-140 and I-485 applications) until 17 August 2007, but we are unable to do so because we need our PERM applications to be approved before we can file I-140 and I-485.
We request you to resolve this delay with Atlanta PERM processing center ASAP and help us with our great American dream.
Best Regards,
Atlanta PERM applicants
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JUST FAXED OUR LETTER TO BOTH.
1. dsikka
2. cooldown
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I think everyone lost their hopes.Come on guys wake up and send faxes
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Yes ... Looks like ATL has gone back to their older ways of 2 or 3 a day ... so everybody is loosing hope ..we wil see a good speed from them only on Aug 31st when they want to clear all Apr and save their face ...They will sleep all month long and wake up and process all at one ... from Jul 27 its evident that they can process faster ..but why they d'nt want to that way ..GOD ONLY KNOWS..
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guys - first approval for the day
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dsikka i think you have to react like Rakib and Rutsgell .
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Guys...We have been going through tough phase in our personal life....pleaes ...please...this is the time we all need to be together and do something...please if u have access to FAX...please fax it...don't loose hope...
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