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Topic: Whats wrong with ATL PERM Center
Posted by dsik (247) 09 Aug 2007
DIMA, my friend, you are ROYALLY screwed man. I am sorry.

Here's your info


Re-Filing : Identical Applications
©MurthyDotCom
The DOL was asked how they interpret the requirement that, for re-filing and maintaining a priority date, the new case must be "identical." If an identical case is re-filed under PERM, the PERM case should be able to retain the earlier priority date of the original labor certification filing. If the cases are not identical, the priority date from the original filing is lost since that case is treated as withdrawn once a re-filing is requested. In such a case, the DOL will use the PERM filing date as the priority date. Therefore, the DOL's answer to the identical case issue is critical. The DOL answered that they are using a literal interpretation of the word "identical." In the example given, if the employer has moved to another address since the original filing - even if it is on the same street - the new case would not be considered identical!

This is the link : http://www.murthy.com/news/n_idefil.html


ALSO, this is from DOL: FAQs

Question: How can corrections be made to a filed application?
¾ Corrections can not be made to an application after the application is submitted under PERM. Once an application has been electronically submitted or mailed, it is considered final and no changes to the application will be permitted. This applies to typographical errors, as well. If the employer believes changes and/or corrections are necessary to the admissibility and/or appropriateness of the application, the employer should withdraw the application and file a new application with the changes and/or corrections. (For withdrawal information, see the separate FAQ on procedures for withdrawing an application.)
NOTE: All accurate recruitment information from the prior application, if still applicable and current, can be used in support of the new application.

Link to this: PAGE 3: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/perm_faqs_8-8-05.pdf

so , bottom line "you HAD a great chance by your PD being in apr, NOT ANY MORE". I am very sorry.

Jai Mata Di!
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Posted by dima (16) 09 Aug 2007
thank you brother for your reply. I just contact my employer now and honnest brother I don't know what the hell he's talking about .he talking about their gonna do some substitution if I get approved.they didn't widraw my case . .and I just checked again my perm with the password and it says in process .I don't know what to do .I M LOST . I know its over for me. and I can hane a denial because they being playing with my applicaion.he telling me also that the application can be denied only after 30 to 45 days after its reception by the dol .after that period most of the application are subject of approval.
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Posted by bhiti (12) 09 Aug 2007
Guys, I got approved today. My docs were filed in Apr towards the end, I think 24th. I hope all of us on this board get cleared and can meet the deadline of Aug 17th. God Bless
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 10 Aug 2007

thank you brother for your reply. I just contact my employer now and honnest brother I don't know what the hell he's talking about .he talking about their gonna do some substitution if I get approved.they didn't widraw my case . .and I just checked again my perm with the password and it says in process .I don't know what to do .I M LOST . I know its over for me. and I can hane a denial because they being playing with my applicaion.he telling me also that the application can be denied only after 30 to 45 days after its reception by the dol .after that period most of the application are subject of approval.



you should consult another lawyer....yours is playing games it seems
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Posted by hemantahire (4) 10 Aug 2007
Guys, Can anyone tell me if PERM had to get approved before July31st in order to file before the deadline of Aug 17th?
If this is true, there is no benefit of any followup with DOL Atlanta at this point and we have to wait for October bulletin.
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 10 Aug 2007
It's Friday..so let's start the day with "Jai Maata Ki". Hope it's a good day. Please atlanta continue helping us.... God bless.
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
###UPDATE THE TRACKER IF YOU HAVE NOT UPDATED IN AUGUST BY NOON TODAY###

We can take the count of people who are waiting desperately and do some stats and check how many of us have a good chance.
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Posted by pleasepermme (1) 10 Aug 2007
Hi guys I am a slient watcher of this forum. I am really praying today for all of us stuck in Atlanta that we all get cleared today. WE Will win. God is with us.

JOR SE BOLA JAI MATTA DI

JAI GANESHAI NAMAH

OM SAIBABA
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Posted by h12gc (62) 10 Aug 2007
Hi,
Today must be the day.
Lets hope they will approve all of us.
update PERM_ATLANTA
set Status = 'CERTIFIED'
where AppliedDate
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
Jai Mata Di!

ps, you see above with DIMA, how lawyers/ employers paly with ur future here?

this is crazy man, they shoud be shot. MF-ers, excuse my language, take $6000-$8000 to do the whole gc process and f** up like this.

Anyway, HAPPY FRIDAY TO OF US GUYS.

Jai Mata Di!

Om Sai Ram!

Satnam Sairam Maharaj Ki Jai!
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
Dima,

Sorry to hear about your case. Please take all your case details to a supportive attorneys like immigration.com or murthy.com and find out the Ins and Outs of the case. It may cost you around couple of hundred dollars but you will know your right path.

DO NOT RELY ON ANY INFORMATION FROM YOUR EMPLOYER OR ATTORNEY, SINCE THEY HAVE ALREADY SCREWED YOU ONCE. Do NOT LET THEM know that you have taken your case else where. Once, you have clear picture, FIND A NEW LAWYER...and convince your employer. Do not let them know until the last minute and more importantly DON'T GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE...

God Bless...
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
JAI MATA KI
OM SAI RAM
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Posted by WhyMe (41) 10 Aug 2007
About attorneys screwing up your information :
Well, in my case, my attorney had sent me screen shots of online forms that he filled for me..
That way, i could review the form and give my GO and then, he pressed the submit button.

I guess, we all should push our attorneys to send us screen shots of information about us... especially when it comes to filling forms online.
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Posted by pshah (8) 10 Aug 2007
commit;
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
Even Kumble scored 50...there can't be a better day than this to get our cases certified.
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
LOL spd. ATL is f*** disgusting that it being compared to Kumble's batting skills and Laloo's administrative skills.

ITS DAMN FUNNY.

guys, not trusting how they work from mon-thu, today is the last friday game of the season, next friday's bump in approvals, if any, wont be of any use.

so good luck to all

JAI MATA DI!
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
JAI MATA DI
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
PLEASE DO UPDATE THE TRACKER. IT TAKES JUST FEW SECS.



###UPDATE THE TRACKER IF YOU HAVE NOT UPDATED IN AUGUST BY NOON TODAY###

We can take the count of people who are waiting desperately and do some stats and check how many of us have a good chance.
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Posted by pcsankar73 (138) 10 Aug 2007
Last day of the week and our long waited day . ATLANAT Pls make this day count for us . I would like to see minimum 25 ...

Any prediction fior today !!!
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Posted by vdlrao (246) 10 Aug 2007
pcsankar73,

you may get your approval today!!
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Posted by WhyMe (41) 10 Aug 2007
yeyeee first approval of the day!!! 17th may
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
First approval of the the day 05/17 PD
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
STATS BASED ON UPDATED DATE STARTING JULY 1st.

MONTH TOTAL PENDING CERTIFIED

JAN 4 2 2
FEB 28 3 25
MAR 93 18 75
APR 95 40 55
MAY 68 57 11
JUNE 71 64 7
JULY 39 38 1

total 398 222 176
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
I think we will see movement in May today..........
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
I am sure and positive we will see lot of approvals today.

Jai Venkateshwara
OM NAMOSHIVAYA
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Posted by amal (30) 10 Aug 2007
today is Atlanta approval day....
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Posted by amal (30) 10 Aug 2007
Go green Atlantaaaaaaaaaaaa..........................
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Posted by amal (30) 10 Aug 2007
did you guys see the 3rd FAQ regarding 485 filing?
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
HAIL ATLANTA.....

SAVE US ALL>>>
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Posted by amal (30) 10 Aug 2007
Atlanta in a working mood rather than weekend mood....... so hopefully a record day....
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Posted by amal (30) 10 Aug 2007
seems one denied...
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
3 rd FAQ din have much to bother us or save us, so dun worry abt it.

Com'on ATL, GO MAY GO GO GO......

JAI MATA DI!
OM GANESHAIYE NAMAH!
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
There are only 143 apps updated from aug 1st.

63 - Certified
80 - pending

Pending per month

Feb - 3
Mar -3
apr -13
may -25
june -23
july -13
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
did anyone see today's "DENIAL STORY"? its f**** riduculous. I am sorry for him, I would hate for it to happen to anybody, at least in this time of crunch.

JAI MATA DI!

JAI SANKAT MOCHHAN! JAI BAJRANG BALI!
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Posted by pcsankar73 (138) 10 Aug 2007
i dont want too much from today ... Just approvals for all the desperate people registered in teh forum and pressing the refresh button every 1 minute to see any updates for today...

so pls ATLANTA we will remember your glory for long if we all get approved by today !!! PLS MAKE US THIS DAY ...
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Posted by h12gc (62) 10 Aug 2007
Hi,
Good analysis dudue.
Hope we see lot of approvals from ATlanta soon.
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
:-|, you are right pcsankar.

right index finger hits F5 every min on this page.

Just feeling very low n frustrated about all of this...

JAI MATA DI!
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Posted by WhyMe (41) 10 Aug 2007
i agree... the F5 button on my keyboard automatically gets pressed when it sees my finger coming close to it ;-)
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
funny, yeah?? your keyboard is more desperate than u r for the LC , i guess.....

JAI MATA DI!

OM NAMOH SHIVAY!
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
My fingers are tuned to F6 and F5 in that order...:)
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
We had more than 3 approved by 1 pm yesterday. Speed up ATLANTA
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Posted by WhyMe (41) 10 Aug 2007
I guess, their random number genreator routine is running slow today.
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
Guys,

As much as we are awaiting for people to update the 'status' , people attend other priorities as soon as they receive an approval. So, we will have to wait for these people too....:)
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
u r right spd. manoharc, you need to keep your "REMINDER to update" at the top.

JAI MATA DI!
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
we had all late apr apprls yesterday, 4.20-29. both today are May 21,17. What do you guys think? Me being May 29, I am ok ok optimist now.

we shouted, we did the requests, we showed our frustration, we sent loads of flowers, we showered emails, we conveyed thanks, we made compromise proposals, we got more furstrated nwhat not.

its time to pray.

JAI MATA DI!

JAI MATA DI!

JAI MATA DI!
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Posted by spd123 (202) 10 Aug 2007
JAI MATA DI
OM SAI RAM
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
PLEASE UPDATE THE TRACKER.


There are only 143 apps updated from aug 1st.

64 - Certified
79 - pending

Pending per month

Feb - 3
Mar -3
apr -13
may -24
june -23
july -13


certified per month in (AUG) - 63 ( 8 Working days)
processing speed = 7.875 ( will increase when we add more certs for today)
5 working days remaining

Feb - 6
Mar - 7
apr - 37
may - 5
june - 7
july -1

certified per month in (JULY) - 109 ( 21 working days)
processing speed = 5.19
Jan - 2
Feb - 23
Mar - 68
apr - 11
may - 5
june - 0
july - 0


Based on the stats looks like they are following FIFO to approximately 75%. I think we should see movement in April and May.
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Posted by LuckyGreen (174) 10 Aug 2007
PLEASE DO UPDATE THE TRACKER. IT TAKES JUST FEW SECS.
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Posted by dsik (247) 10 Aug 2007
agreed manoharc, again, as i think it was vdlrao who pointed this out or spd,

they get processed in FIFO by the desk not necessrily on the whole.

its like standing at the train ticket counter, one line moves faster than the other because the clerk is fast. so, again, using the same eg.g if they receive 100 apps per day an they have 10 analysts, they devide 10 each.

after that its just our luck if our a particular app goes to a HOV lane or right lane.

but, yes, is does look like they picked up a little speed (9 days in aug is way cool as compared to 31 days in jul) and all desks are now in late apr or even MAY. if you notice, not many people from before PDs are complaining on this forum anymore, its only us, late Apr, May, June. so i guess they are not coming back to update.

so, bottom line, being may 29 meself, i am a little optimistic, but then again, its too tight a situation to feel very comfortable.

JAI MATA DI!
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