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Topic: VERY IMPORTANT, request USCIS to allow filing 140/485 without hard copy of LC
Posted by bigtime007 (5) 30 Jul 2007
Hi all, with the sudden increase in certified PERM cases from ATL, we are getting hope again. However, since the LC hard copy takes 7 to 10 days to arrive, it means if we are not certified by Aug 7th, we won't be able to file even if the PERM is certified before 17th. I have already sent emails faxes to DOL ATL center, I will send more emails and faxes to USCIS to request for filing without LC hard copy. USCIS already allowed filing without medical exam or I140 receipt number due to the time limit, I believe it may also allow filing without LC hard copy.

I urge you all do so to make our slim hope a bit larger. I hope in their FAQ #3 they will say it's OK to file without hard copy of LC!!

Cheer!
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Posted by nareshkan (10) 30 Jul 2007
I agree. This is going to be key. I called Atlanta DOL today. They mail out in batches, say couple of times a week. So depending on what day of the week your PERM is approved it will take 7-10 days( including sat & sun) to get the physical approval notice. If USCIS will permit to apply for 140/145 with a screen shot or the confirmation email that you get after approval, it will be a huge benefit.
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Posted by rutgersll (153) 30 Jul 2007
Is it possible that we can download the approval copy from DOL website and use it first????
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Posted by zzjjmmtt (17) 30 Jul 2007
Agree! I'll fax a letter to support this idea.
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Posted by rakimmigratin (1) 31 Jul 2007
Where to check the status online?
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 31 Jul 2007
I finally am back after my flight/plus installing hard drive on comp...now back on team...going to do what needs to be done...
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 31 Jul 2007
Does anyone have a draft they are using and what email you are emailing/number you are faxing..

I think this is important, very important to do along with DOL campaign
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 31 Jul 2007
I wrote this draft...open to suggestions... and list of DHS (no use sending it to DOLETA since this is directed to USCIS) to send to..plz add/suggest

______________________________________________________________________________________________________

SUBJECT LINE: Labor Certification approval..is hard copy REQUIRED...please help

Dear Sir/Madam

I write to you in hoping that you will take a few minutes to read this and understand our problem and it's impact on our employment based green card process

As you are aware, USCIS has set a deadline of Aug 17 to submit applications of adjustment of status for the green card. This is an extremely important step for those who are attempting to get permanent residency based on employment. USCIS has also indicated that after this window of opportunity has passed, there will be severe retrogression of years and this opportunity will not present itself again for years.

You may also be aware that in order for EB2 and EB3 category applicants to be eligible to file during this window, they would need their PERM/labor certifications to be approved through Department of Labor. As far as we have been informed, we are also required to have a "hard copy approval notice" of Labor Certification submitted with the I-485 otherwise applications risk being rejected for lack of initial evidence.

You may or may not be aware that there are MANY MANY individuals who are stuck with Atlanta Processing Center for their PERM approvals. PERM applications are processed at either Atlanta or Chicago based on geographic location of employer. When DOL started PERM process (in an effort to minimize the severe backlog with the old system), they claimed that PERM applications would be processed within 45-60 days. However that is not the case with Atlanta Processing Center where applications on average are processed in about 120 days. Chicago is on other hand processing applications in a number of days, in about 7 days or so. Why is this the case? Because Atlanta Center has responsibilities related to H2B processing, which we understand...however it is negatively impacting the pending PERM applications at Atlanta. This is resulting in applicants at Atlanta Center missing out on the window of opportunity presented by USCIS.

Our concern is that even though USCIS has in it's FAQ regarding July visa bulletin said that Labor Applications approved between Aug 1 and 17, are eligible to file for submitting I-485. This helps give hope to many. However as far as our understanding goes, in order to file for I 485, one needs the hard copy of Labor Approval. As you can see for PERM applicants at Atlanta it's already become an unfair situation. For those who do SOMEHOW get approval by Aug 17, it still might be too late as getting the hard copy of approval notice from Atlanta will be another problem.

What are we asking for?
1) Please clarify if HARD copy of PERM approval is needed to submit I-485 or a screen shot/email of approval from DOL is sufficient?
2) Is there any way that USCIS can make an exeception and allow for those applicants who are approved for labor certification (by Aug 17) but do not have actual hard copy yet, to be able to file and have a chance to submit the hard copy approval once DOL sends it to them?

We sincerely hope you will consider this request in at least a way to see the pain being cause to many by delays at Atlanta Processing Center. Due to no fault of their own, applicants at Atlanta will suffer a lot of heartache if they miss out on this USCIS opportunity simply because they did not have the actual hard copy approval of their PERM.

Please please let us know through email or through an update on this issue in your next FAQ 3.

Thank you for your time reading this and we hope that you will understand the heartache that will result for many who are already dealing with despair cause due to slow processing from Atlanta Processing Center. At least give us a chance and some hope...not asking for much...

Thanks again
Sincerely
PERM Applicant at Atlanta Processing Center
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Posted by valuablehurdle (24) 03 Aug 2007
My lawyer said today that labor can be filed without a hard copy. The law does not specify that hard copy is a absolute requirement. The online application is now stamped as 'certified'. This is enough proof and they can easily verify it with the labor department.
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 03 Aug 2007
still i am waiting for hard copy.its already 5 days past..............
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 03 Aug 2007
can u email or call to ask dol?
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 03 Aug 2007
i dont know exactly....

i hope lawyer will receive next monday
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 03 Aug 2007
Hope so too....can u use online certification in worst case scenario
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Posted by rakib123 (103) 05 Aug 2007
received hard copy 08/04/2007.............

now all set...............
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Posted by ps57002 (421) 05 Aug 2007
awesome :)
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