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Discussion Forums: Diversity Visa 2009
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Topic: When are the results coming out?
Posted by Hawai (2) 29 Feb 2008
Does any one have an idea of when the results will be out?
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Posted by busco4you (78) 02 Mar 2008
they won't publish them until later in a year. But they will start mailing out results very soon. If whoever hears that someone won (or in other words received a result), please post it here.
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Posted by Canada4life (16) 02 Mar 2008
The DV 2009 notification letters will start being sent out by KCC from Aril to July 2008. Keep checking on this site for updates.
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Posted by Bilka (1) 08 Mar 2008
Let's all hope and good luck to everyone. I've been playing for 7 years. Never won, but still playing.
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 21 Mar 2008
Hopefully they will come out soon, My wife has applied each year since 1996 and so far nothing.
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Posted by kerstbrd (269) 26 Mar 2008

Hopefully they will come out soon, My wife has applied each year since 1996 and so far nothing.



I've been applying since 1994.
Its a scam... or at least the winners picked is very slanted. If you look at the results, or visa bulletin cutoff numbers Africa & Europe are usually double what Asia has. (even counting out India & China) If you look at South America those numbers are almost laughable. A whole continent and and its not like everybody doesn't know and didn't apply. Back home the US embassy actually advertised the DV lottery on the local newspaper.
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Posted by busco4you (78) 27 Mar 2008


Hopefully they will come out soon, My wife has applied each year since 1996 and so far nothing.



I've been applying since 1994.
Its a scam... or at least the winners picked is very slanted. If you look at the results, or visa bulletin cutoff numbers Africa & Europe are usually double what Asia has. (even counting out India & China) If you look at South America those numbers are almost laughable. A whole continent and and its not like everybody doesn't know and didn't apply. Back home the US embassy actually advertised the DV lottery on the local newspaper.



What does allocated visa numbers (from a bulletin) have to do with how many people apply or advertising for DV?
Certain countries get less or nothing because those countries already send a lot of immigrants to US. That's why it is called Diversity Visa so that the countries that immigrate least to US are awarded more DV visas.

I only played it since 2000 (I did not do it before because I thought it was a scam. There are scammers out there, but if you go through official web site, it is not a scam). So, I have not won but my relatives that I help them sign up did win. And, I know a lot of friends who won it in a quiet honest way.

Good luck, everyone!
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 27 Mar 2008

[I only played it since 2000 (I did not do it before because I thought it was a scam. There are scammers out there, but if you go through official web site, it is not a scam). So, I have not won but my relatives that I help them sign up did win. And, I know a lot of friends who won it in a quiet honest way.

Good luck, everyone!



I know it is possible to win, but as everything else there are ways that people cheat even in this lottery system. I have heard of people applying under different names and birth dates and winning. For example, wife and husband change only small details about the names one letter less or more, about 12 entries and guess what they have won 2 years in the row.
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Posted by ongei (8) 27 Mar 2008
Folks,

Please note that winning the lottery is not a guarantee that you will be issued the VISA. Much as some people cheat and win the lottery as explained by Scutari08, it is difficult for such people to be issued a Visa due to the tight immigration screening process to obatin the Visa, Many winners are denied visas due to annomalies in their personal profiles.

Lets all stay positive and keep on our knees for God's mercy to prevail, certainly if it's the will of God we shall win.
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Posted by kerstbrd (269) 28 Mar 2008
I'm not talking about scamming the people who apply, that's a different topic.
Scam as in its not as 'diverse' as its name sounds.
Those countries that send a lot of immigrants to the US don't get less, they don't even get to participate.

2007 dv lottery:
* 50% of the winners went to 6 countries. ( Egypt, Nigeria, Morocco, Ethiopia, Bangladesh and Ukraine )
* just random picking a country to show the slant. Indonesia: population 230 million with 254 winners. Nigeria population with 140 million and 9849 winners. Ukraine population 46 million with 7205 winners.
total winners in Asia 9747. Discounting India and China there are still almost 2 billion people in Asia.

2008 dv lottery the number for those same 6 countries dropped 34%
or you can say 50% of winners just went to those same countries + 4 more (Cameroon, Kenya, Ghana, and Uzbekistan)

the current visa bulletin for cutoff numbers: Africa 21,500 Europe 20,625 South America 1,425
Even if 90% of those for Africa and Europe are rejected for fraud, they are still well ahead of South America's number.
I refuse to believe that 90% of those are fraud while 100% of South America is not.
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 31 Mar 2008
kerstbrd: I want to say even though, you put in a way that really looks discriminating towards some countries. I can say that most of the countries that win huge number of visas are actually based on the number of people that imigrate to USA under other cathegories such as work and family immigration.

I come from an easter European county, not many people have come to USA since we don't have the education and family ties (during communism immigration not allowed). That is why Ukraine and other countries from Eastern Europe do get the majority of visas. Western European countries have ridiculous numbers if you see them, worse than South America.

South American countries have always immigrated to USA and these numbers (family unions) are the greatest nr of visas issued for immigration purposses along with Philipines (family based), China (work, family, asylum), India (work and family). Other countries should have a chance to be able to come to USA besides the ones above. This makes the DV lottery diverse. I don't think the immigration is set in having particular nationalities come to USA, they are trying to keep this as diverse as possible with the huge numbers of work/family immigrants from South America, India, China, Russia, and others.

Just a thought, I wish they had some kind of Skilled worker system like Canada and my wife would win, but guess what they don't. Even the H1B visas all are taken from IT professionals that get hired from employment agencies in India, China, Western Europe, leaving no chance of H1B for the other countries. Poor and third world countries with low immigration, lottery is the only option.
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 31 Mar 2008

Folks,

Please note that winning the lottery is not a guarantee that you will be issued the VISA. Much as some people cheat and win the lottery as explained by Scutari08, it is difficult for such people to be issued a Visa due to the tight immigration screening process to obatin the Visa, Many winners are denied visas due to annomalies in their personal profiles.

Lets all stay positive and keep on our knees for God's mercy to prevail, certainly if it's the will of God we shall win.



Right, most of the people I hope don't do that, but in corrupted countries where money takes you a long way, people can get away with stuff like that, minor details such as the spelling of a name. I wish all the best, and wish you have luck and may the right people win ;)
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 10 Apr 2008
The other forums say that Africa and South America winners have received their notification letters so far only in US addresses.
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Posted by busco4you (78) 11 Apr 2008

The other forums say that Africa and South America winners have received their notification letters so far only in US addresses.



Can you post the links for the forums you are talking about? Thanks.
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 25 Apr 2008
Do a search on google and see what you get? I can't paste the website here I don't know why.
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Posted by bdoptimistic (226) 29 Apr 2008


The other forums say that Africa and South America winners have received their notification letters so far only in US addresses.



Can you post the links for the forums you are talking about? Thanks.



Not sure, if this is the forum the previous user mentioned, but the following post claims to have received notification for DV 2009

http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=276737

Looks like there are quite a few DV 2009 winners in that forum. I wish they entered their cases here at trackitt
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 30 Apr 2008
Yes, that was the one. Also, in my country Albania yesterday the post office published the 137 winners in the national newspaper.
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Posted by angelo (20) 02 May 2008
I won!!!!!!!! Got the letter today.
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Posted by busco4you (78) 03 May 2008

I won!!!!!!!! Got the letter today.



Congrats! I hope you get your GC via DV. So, it leaves one EB visa number for rest of us. If you're going to do AOS within US, make sure you get a good lawyer who did a bunch of DV cases. I know several people who won while in US and cases got stuck or filed incorrectly. Usually, consular processing is more straight forward. This is how my parents got it. Good luck!
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Posted by uniquechipie (5) 11 May 2008
I am German and live in the United States and have applied for this year's lottery. I have not heard anything so far. Two questions:
-How does the letter look like (color/size of the envelope)?
-Have other Europeans who live in the United States received their letter yet?
THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR RESPONSES.
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Posted by Stride (18) 12 May 2008

I am German and live in the United States and have applied for this year's lottery. I have not heard anything so far. Two questions:
-How does the letter look like (color/size of the envelope)?
-Have other Europeans who live in the United States received their letter yet?
THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THEIR RESPONSES.



1)The envelope is white and it was about 8 by 11 (maybe a little bigger)
2) I live in the U.S. but we are Kenyan and our family got ours thursday the 8th.
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 13 May 2008
Look for a large white envelope from the KCC address. Everytime I get something of that size I get excited LOL. Many people have received their NL from KCC and many others are to come probably until June 2008.
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Posted by uniquechipie (5) 13 May 2008
Thanks so much to both of you, now I know better what to focus on :)

If anyone on the forum is German and lives in the U.S. and has received the letter, please let me know...

I will post again if I am a lucky winner :)
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Posted by geoale (19) 13 May 2008
I am from Cyprus, a country of 800,000 population. Both my wife and I applied for the first time this year. Do we have better chances if from such a small country? I am new to this and I don't know how it works. We currently live in the U.S. on H1B and H4.
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Posted by kerstbrd (269) 13 May 2008

South American countries have always immigrated to USA and these numbers (family unions) are the greatest nr of visas issued for immigration purposses along with Philipines (family based), China (work, family, asylum), India (work and family). Other countries should have a chance to be able to come to USA besides the ones above. This makes the DV lottery diverse. I don't think the immigration is set in having particular nationalities come to USA, they are trying to keep this as diverse as possible with the huge numbers of work/family immigrants from South America, India, China, Russia, and others.



All valid points. Those countries mentioned don't get to apply for DV lottery.

So by your argument because Peru, Columbia & Brazil sends a lot of immigrants to the US, the visa cutoff numbers for South America is 20 times less then Europe or Africa? That doesn't sound right. I can't explain why one country (Ukraine or Kenya) have 5 times the winners then the visa cutoff for the whole South America region.

You can't say its based on the population because we have this huge continent Asia that even discounting the disqualified countries (China, India, South Korea, Phillipines), still has a lot of people. I'm sure not all those other Asian countries are so rich that they skip applying for this lottery.

So either Africa + Europe has some nationwide 'enter DV lottery' program where they help every Tom, Dick and Harry apply to increase their chances of winning, OR... the DV lottery program is rigged to pick more from those regions.

And greatest number of immigrants is Mexico (North America).
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Posted by kerstbrd (269) 13 May 2008

I am from Cyprus, a country of 800,000 population. Both my wife and I applied for the first time this year. Do we have better chances if from such a small country? I am new to this and I don't know how it works. We currently live in the U.S. on H1B and H4.



If you haven't received the notice yet, chances are that even if you win, your # will be high enough that you might have to do a mad dash to finish processing before the fiscal year cutoff dates.
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Posted by geoale (19) 14 May 2008
The notices are supposed to be mailed out during May-June-July. It is still mid May.
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Posted by uniquechipie (5) 14 May 2008
I really hope that there will still be many of those white 8x11 inch letters...:)
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Posted by kerstbrd (269) 14 May 2008

The notices are supposed to be mailed out during May-June-July. It is still mid May.



I was just speculating, don't believe me? just wait for the letter then.
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 14 May 2008
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All valid points. Those countries mentioned don't get to apply for DV lottery.

So by your argument because Peru, Columbia & Brazil sends a lot of immigrants to the US, the visa cutoff numbers for South America is 20 times less then Europe or Africa? That doesn't sound right. I can't explain why one country (Ukraine or Kenya) have 5 times the winners then the visa cutoff for the whole South America region.

You can't say its based on the population because we have this huge continent Asia that even discounting the disqualified countries (China, India, South Korea, Phillipines), still has a lot of people. I'm sure not all those other Asian countries are so rich that they skip applying for this lottery.

So either Africa + Europe has some nationwide 'enter DV lottery' program where they help every Tom, Dick and Harry apply to increase their chances of winning, OR... the DV lottery program is rigged to pick more from those regions.
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I am not working in the KCC otherwise I would help u :) But I am thinking that they probably have some sort of system that helps them calculate the cut off numbers. As I said before most winners at least in Europe are actually from ex-communist countries with small # of immigrants to USA, western EU does not get much winners.

According to this http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf DHS has published the numbers of the LPR-GC issued to all regions look at the table #3. The total LPR N# issued to South America are about the same with EU and Africa, population varies larger in EU and Africa.
If you look at the same table #3 half of the 20 countries from the top LPR received are from the America's continent. You have Uk from EU and Nigeria & Ethopia from Africa, others from Asia.

Another interesting fact is that the DV lottery is about 4% of the total LPRs issued in 2007. And more interesting is the fact that the maximun limit for DV lottery is 50,000 and DHS managed to issue only about 42,127, almost 1/5 of the available LPR's through DV were waisted during 2007. Good luck this year and keep an eye open for the envelope :)
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Posted by kerstbrd (269) 16 May 2008

Good luck this year and keep an eye open for the envelope :)


Unfortunately this is one of them years when I didn't participate. I was giving others a chance since I was already adjusting status, and now this visa-gate turns out it was a much bigger problem.
good luck on your's.
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Posted by Scutari08 (32) 18 May 2008
Thanx, but I also don't need it soon I will be a citizen, and hopefully my wife can update her application to adjustment of status.
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Posted by lindina254 (6) 21 May 2008
hi- I am Italian and I live in the US (I have an H1B)

DV 2009 was my 4th or 5th entry-I received the envelope on 3/31/2008- it is a large 8 1/2 by 11 white envelope and the return address is Kentucky Consular Center.

good luck!
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Posted by lindina254 (6) 21 May 2008
hi- I am Italian and I live in the US (I have an H1B)

DV 2009 was my 4th or 5th entry-I received the envelope on 3/31/2008- it is a large 8 1/2 by 11 white envelope and the return address is Kentucky Consular Center.

good luck!
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Posted by Ike102 (1) 22 May 2008
Hi,
I'm Ike from Ghana and I've this question to ask so please someone should answer me.
On my dvlottery 2009 preview,I have expired date on it to be 3rd dec. 2010.And the question is.
1.will I be eligible to participate in dvlottery 2010 should it happen that I don't get my letter?
2.when will those of us in Ghana receive our letters?
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Posted by maore (6) 18 Jun 2008
It 's not a scam the continent which is allocated the most number is the ones which sent the least immigrant within the last 10 years - so it is all fair good = it is diversity baby !
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Posted by jokabobo (1) 19 Aug 2008
good luck man. i have also been trying for the past four years but i have still not won and i am in Ghana. from your experience, can u give me assurance that i should continue taking part that onedays i will also win? thanks
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