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Topic: USA to Canada
All,
I would like to start a discussion forum of USA based applicants under Federal Skilled Worker category to share timelines and cases status as well as experiences.
We can also exchange our thoughts and share our knowledge of prospects of living in Canada versus USA in terms employment, education, family, what places are good to live in etc . etc.
Please join in and share.
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My Medical was done on July 16th. Anyone else there in the same stage. Lets share our progress.
My timeline till now is around 14 months so far.
I know of cases that took end to end 18 months from Buffalo.
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Hi,
I am actually interested in this also. If anybody who has lived in the US and moved to canada can share their experiences in terms of schools for kids, society, environment, work / work culture, that would be great!
Thanks
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Yes that is a very valid topic of discussion. Given the current condition of the immigration system in USA which is on life support and heavily in favor of people who came here illegally Canada seems an increasingly viable option.
Any consideration of moving to Canada has to involve all of the above topics.
Friends please contribute.
Lets see some other relevant websites, blogs where we can invite people to contribute here.
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Anyone have a good attorney in Canada for immigration. The US application is taking way too long, and after being in the US for fourteen years, and I ready to give up the wait!
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Hi,
I don't think you would want a lawyer for canada immigration (unless you have a more complex case).
It's actually very easy to prepare the documentation for them (though it takes at least 3 months to submit it, since you
are dependent on FBI checks at least and possibly police checks from your home country).
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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/index.asp
If you go to the above link you will find a very detailed and clear instructions to apply directly for Canada immigration.
I have personally done it the same way.
In fact at this stage do not send in the FBI clearance as they will very likely ask fr it again.
End to end the process should not take more than 18-20 months for skilled workers in USA especially in IT.
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Thank you both so much for your replies. I will start the process soon...I am sure that even 18 months from now my GC will still be pending!
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to those who have sent in their application to canada, i would like to ask if it's possible to send in my application even without the police clearance from my home country but i have FBI clearance here in the US already...i want to send in my apps now so that i will be in line already...the police clearance from the home country can just follow later once i have my AOR...any suggestions please? will really appreciate it.
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You could try to send in your application without the police certificates, but attach a letter saying that you have already initiated the request and that you will forward the results to them asap. However, they may return your application back and not consider it if it doesn't have all the documents specified on their instructions.
What happened to me is that I didn't put a "Not applicable" under "governmental jobs" on some form, and they actually returned the entire package back to us...delaying the whole thing by about 1 month.
My understanding of the process is that there are no guarantees of whether your case will be accepted in a somewhat incomplete form, but that it almost always helps to submit everything they ask for.
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In fact I have not sent in a Police clearance yet from any other country other than USA.
I have completed my medical and the interview has ben waived.
I did have to submit FBI clearance once again at this stage though.
I would say submit with FBI clearance only at this stage.
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Im just wonderin..im currently living in USA (with a pending PERM application), with a US born child, I want to immigrate to Canada. do i have to go back to my country to apply or i could do it here in the US then go back to my country when my visa got approved. Just wonderin...need help
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Hi,
Need your thoughts on this...
I have a Canadian PR and i have been outside Canada more than 2 years , i think we can stay outstide Canada for 3 years of the 5 years or other exception is i think is working for a Canadian company outside canada or assiting Canadian citizen?
Is there any other alternates or methods that i can stay more than 3 years outside Canada? for example USA GC as some think like re-entry permit?
please let me know your thoughts on this.
Thanks
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You do not have to go back to your country at all. You can apply directly from USA and land directly from here to Canada without neccessarily going back to your home country.
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Renster:
Good that you want to start the Canadian immigration process. I started in January 9/2007 and 6 months later they asked me for the medicals and the "Right of Permanent Resident Fee". The process is being faster and faster every day (apparently the process is not taking 18 months anymore)....I have seen people taking less than 4 months before being asked for the medicals, which is one of the last steps.
Good luck
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You can count on 18+36 months. Apply for canadian immigration, and if your GC doesn't come in 54 months from now, go to Canada for good !
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You do not need to send police certs at the time of applying. They are only required when CIC asks for it later. You'll need police certs from every country u have resided since 18 yrs of age.
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i filed on jan 4 almost the same time as you applied.......... they ask me for ILTES AND AGAIN I SEND THE DETAILS OF MY NEWBORN BABY...after that i never heard from them...... i send all these papers buy march 10 ,i dont know how long it is going to take ........ please replay
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Hi sheebababy000! I am about to process my application at the buffalo office. We are planning to get pregnant this year and wanted to know how will it be possible to add our baby in the future in my application. How did you informed the office with your new baby? Also, Will it be possible for my medical exams to be waived if I'm pregnant?
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I am considering the canadian immigration option, I have some basic questions, if someone could give me input on following that would be great help.
1: How much time it takes to complete the process from USA, I know it varies, but I think its not that unpredictable as GC
2: On the approval, one has to get into canada within how many months ?
3: I think the minimum time to stay in Canada is 3 years out of 5 years ?
Thanks
abc456
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when i apply for green card...... i am pragnant......... when the register itself ......... they gave me a form to inform them in case of birth, or address change, marriage etc.. so i just fill the application send it to them .... after 25 days later they ask me for babys birth certificate and passport......one of my friend told me you can even add before landing to canada......... so it doesn't matter i guees
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1: How much time it takes to complete the process from USA, I know it varies, but I think its not that unpredictable as GC
Ans. It should take anywhere from 18-24 months. Typical I have seen is 20 months. My case 18 months.
2: On the approval, one has to get into canada within how many months ?
Ans: They will ask you submit your passports within 60 days for a visa stamping that entitles you to land in Canada and get your PR. This visa is valid for one year.
3: I think the minimum time to stay in Canada is 3 years out of 5 years ?
Ans. Min. to maintain PR is 2 out of 5. Min to be eligible to apply for citizenship 3 years.
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Guys anyone knows any forum where recent and not so recent migrants have posted their experiences in terms of relocation; problems they faced in settling; employment issues; society s they see it; life in general?
It will be of great help to all of us aspiring immigrants to Canada to know more the realities of life there rather than the official version.
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NO Skilled Jobs in Canada...
Friends, please go thru the site www.notcanada.com and you will realize that there are no skilled jobs in canada.
The govt. is showing a rosy picture and there are only jobs for Pizza delivery, carpenter, plumbing, truck, cab driver and other low labour jobs...
Those of you who have not yet immigrated to Canada, please survey before going there..
Your friend
Rishi
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I got my Facilitated Information Technology Work Visa after graduating from school here in Canada. I simply went to the border, left the country (symbolically) & came back to Canada & got my work visa. You have to be professional and have all of your paperwork neat and orderly & know exactly what it is you are applying for. I've since had 2 friends from countries other than USA that have gotten their work visas the same way.
Cheers
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NO Skilled Jobs in Canada...
As with most absolute statements, this statement is absolutely not true.
Yes, there are serious problems with Canada's professional organizations (e.g. doctors), and yes the tech industry is not as big as California's, but there are (of course) skilled jobs available in Canada. Good technology jobs are available in Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver (but are sparse elsewhere)...
I completely understand the position of medical doctors; it is absolutely outrageous that the Canadian government lets the medical association get away with the complete nonsense that they do. That said, it is unconscionable that a disgruntled MD would seek to discourage s/w or computer engineers from immigrating to Canada (and potentially denying them a significant opportunity) for no other reason than to satisfy a personal vendetta (however justifiable) against the CMA/Government of Canada.
ps: The weather in Canada certainly does suck; OTOH global warming is happening much faster than anyone ever predicted, so this may not be true very much longer :-) |
Well, Friends i have already made a decision not to pursue the immigration further..
I am in NY, USA in software field and had applied in monster 4months back.. till date i have not even recieved one mail regarding my job...
If it was UK, India or USA i would have got atleast 2 mails per day...
Who could be more luckier than myself, i applied on 31 May 2007, and on sep 25, they have asked me to do medicals and police clearance... if i do that.. my case would be over by jan 2008...thats 7-8 months flat...
but but but... i went thru this site www.notcanada.com spoke to these people, spoke to my office colleagues etc..
Please get a job offer, or atleast a call of a job and then let me know....
Its not wise to go there and hunt for jobs, coz it not that rosy out there...
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Please get a job offer, or atleast a call of a job and then let me know....
Its not wise to go there and hunt for jobs, coz it not that rosy out there...
This I can agree with 100%.
Because Canada is a much smaller country (33 million people) comparing the jobs available to:
India: 1,100 million
US: 300 million
UK: 90 million
... is not really appropriate. Canada has specific technology areas in which it excels, and there are plenty of jobs in those fields. I suspect that your area of specialization is not an area of specialization that Canada shares.
Certainly anyone considering immigration to Canada needs to be aware of the structure of its economy. Thinking of it as a US/India/China/Japan/UK/France/Germany is just not sensible (UK the smallest country on that list has 3X the population of Canada).
Canada is (in land area) the second largest country in the world (after Russia); three of the provinces are larger than Texas (Quebec is 1.7X the size of Texas), and three other provinces are .95 times the size of Texas. One of the territories (Nunavut) is 3X the size of Texas (with a population of 25,000 - yes 25,000); so if you want to own a few hundred acres of land for $10K, Canada is *the* place to go. Canada has proven oil reserves larger than that of Saudi Arabia (unproven reserves are estimated at many times the size of Saudi), and it is the largest importer of oil to the United States (which is why the dollar is at par).
Canada needs people badly. Its economy is limited by it's minuscule population... They need you, but the idea that they can just import people with the skills in areas for which Canada doesn't have established industries, and that (somehow) those industries will magically appear, is a fundamentally flawed policy. What they need to do, is offer venture capital financing for *highly* (outstanding researcher types) skilled immigrants in the fields that Canada wants to develop. |
EXCELLENT analysis,
Are you in Canada and happily employed?
I would definitely get a job offer before I decide to move. It has to be a reactive move to your situation in the US Immigration cauldron. Also it has to be weighed against a relocation back to home country (e.g. India , China, Brazil, Russia etc.)Just covering everyone and not just Indians.
Let us also debate this and weigh it - Bad scene in USA; Move to Canada ? Move back home?
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I am happily employed on H1 IN USA...
No Plans yet to settle down here, but thought of Canada as a good place...after giving IELTS and all mandatory documnets, i came to know that Bleady hell there are no High skilled or skill level jobs in Canada...
Its really not that worth going out there....
Thinking of UK, or Europe... they are coming out with a Blue Card policy next year, similar to Green Card of USA...
cheers
Rishi
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did you actually call any recruiters in Canada or Hiring Managers in Canada to see if you can get any interviews before abandoning?
UK already had a very liberal policy on immigration and that has been tighetened this year.
When you say Europe - which country because that will determine the employment potetial and the reactions of the indigenous population to immigrant workers. Germany is not know to be very polite to its guest workers.
So then why not India itself.
What are your observations on that.
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get married with a Canadian citizen.
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Folks,
While not exactly on the topic of jobs, you may find this article interesting:
http://www.thestar.com/article/274900
I'm not sure if it was newsworthy outside of Canada, but recently some in Quebec have copied the intolerance of their French brothers... this is certainly not the case in the rest of the country, as the article points out. And even with that Canada is still a decidedly friendlier place for immigrants than anywhere else. Buried in the article are some interesting statistical notes, such as:
"According to Statistics Canada, after four years in Canada, 84 per cent of immigrants say they would make the same decision again and come to Canada. Most immigrants say they are better off economically than before they came."
and
"The incomes of second-generation Canadians – the children of immigrants – actually exceed the national average, suggesting that by and large people who come to this country seeking a better life for their children achieve that result."
I cannot really speak to the ease of finding jobs, since I haven't had to worry about this. But the strength of the Canadian $ and the continuous stream of good economic news (including lowest unemployment in 33 years) should tell you that *something* is working well. Even so, I'm pretty sure you will have to do a little more than just post your resume on the internet and wait for the phone to ring, so yes, it is a good idea to start searching early.
Comparing immigration in Canada to the U.S. I'll point this out: 77% of Canadians think immigrants are good for the country, versus 49% of Americans. Canada accepts more immigrants than any other nation (as a % of population) whereas the U.S. makes it nearly impossible to immigrate unless you're one of the chosen few. So let's assume that it will be a bit more difficult to find a job here - which would you prefer, to *work* in a place where you're not wanted or to *live* in a place where you are?
TOB
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I am liveing in uk for more than 4 years and done my bsc degree here.And i working in a store as customer assistant my main job description are ,
Provide customer service and assist in the retail operation of the express convenient shop.
Assisted and contributed to achieved/exceeded forecasted sales and profit targets.
Helped in the implementation of retail promotional campaigns
Acted to promote teamwork among co-workers
Controlled all site expenses in line with budgets
Assisted to maintain highest standards of retail operation at all times
Ensured effective merchandising and display leading to increased sales
Adhered to all procedures relating to cash and stock control
Ensured strict adherence to laws and statutory regulations relating to health and safety, COSHH and fire safety.
Deal with all customer's queries ,complain etc.
now i want to apply for federal skill worker programm.My question is , can i count my 4 years part time ( equal to 2 years full time )retail store experience to claim to work experience point ?
Hope you guys will give me the idea ,how i can add my above experience.
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Outstanding feedback.
This is what I was looking for as an input for this forum.
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I do not think pert time work in a retail store can be counted.
I am not a legal expert though and you may want to validate this elsewhere too.
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I am a Certified Canadian Immigration Consultant and a former Immigration Officer. I would be pleased to assist you in your immigration case. Please feel free to contact me at the number below.
Kind Regards,
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Adam Blum, MBA,BBA,CSC,CCIC
Canadian Immigration Problem Solvers Ltd.
www.canadian-immigration.ca
Ph: (416) 840-6194
Fax: (416) 840-4298
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I think you may be able to count 4 years part time as 2 years full time, however I agree that working in retail probably does not qualify you as a skilled worker. You can check the NOC list at:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/noc.asp
your experience would have to fall into one of these categories. As far as what I can see, in retail you would need to either be a manager or have very specialized skills (such as a real estate agent). You might want to check with an immigration consultant though, since it's difficult to be sure from just the job titles.
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Hello all,
I have a complicated question that I really need someone´s help.
Facts:
1. I live in USA with student visa (F1)
2. My husband has no status in USA and you can say he is in USA illegally. Tried getting F2 (student dependent visa) but didn´twork out.
3. I have all the documents ready to send to Buffalo office.
Question:
Do you think my husband´s status will create problems?
If yes, can he go back to his own country and wait there until my PR application is processed?
I would much appreciate all your help.
Thanks
Minj
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Are you counting any of husband's credentials in calculating eligibility points?
If he is in the USA they will ask for FBI clearance which requires SSN at the very least which I suspect your husband does not have.
That probably could be the issue creating problems.
I would strongly suggest getting a clarification from an Canadian Immigration attorney.
I found this from the official Canada site. You can browse to see if there is an attorney here.
http://www.csic-scci.ca/
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to the people who have tried job hunting in hunting in Canada - any tips and tricks, do's and dont's
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hi all .. a newbie to this forum .. but same boat
H1-b, 3yrs work-ex, thinking of PR, GC, pros cons .....
first up .. I think it seems reasonable to get started with PR app; GC seems far-fetched as current employer might not go for it, and self applying for GC is all the more hassle .. let alone time ...
should be a nice n interesting journey in this forum :P .. as things move along ....
first up ... i have all these PR app forms printed ... to go to buffalo, need that foto clicked, clearance done, etc.
-- i dont need to send the passport just yet?
-- my passport expires july 2008, any possible issues with that ?
thanks ...
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I also moved here from U.S. Lot to talk about. give me ur email and we can talk
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are u still active in this discussion?
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Are u still active in this discussion?
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I think you can. When you apply just be professional and type your application. Immmigration is very bureaucratic. So make sure you put in the right fees and all the papers in rigth order. Canada badly needs people. If you do it rigth it will accept you.
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thanks so much for sharing this, I agree with you 100% on this. if you get a chance email me at kssbyd@yahoo.com. We can chat and exchange ideas.
thanks
candry
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Candry,
i did not visit the forum for sometime so missed your post.
I am still in the USA but am going to land in Canada very soon.
To make my final decision of relocating it will be great to have your experiences of living in Canada.
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all
I am a US citizen living in Canada.I am a single mom,i was so scared to send my children to high school in States where many children bring guns to school.It is nice place to raise children still lots of gangs N drugs
I am here on work permit.I applied for my PR in july1st got AOR in aug haven't heard from them after that.
thanks everyone
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