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Topic: No Initial Assessment or Transferred to local after 27th Feb
Guys, No case has been moved into initial assessment or trans. to local after 27th Feb. Although the new rule applies to those for whom the application was received after 27th Feb but I was wondering if the definition of application recieved is the AOR date. In my case, the filed was received in early January but the AOR is mid March.
Any thoughts???
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I guess something is happening in CIC. No IA after Feb 27 AOR cases too.. I received AOR first week of April.
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it takes 5 months to move from AOR to IA. A couple of guys with AOR of Feb 27/28 have IA on trackitt.
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What is happening for AOR cases after Feb27?
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I have applied to PR as skilled worked i recevied my file no . i would like to know File no and AOR the same thing or not. Now i also get AOE . Now i m waiting for my IELTS test results. how much time it will taken after submitting AOE ? and what is the next process???
I also want to know I.A is after file no or before ???
Sukhvinder
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The CIC website states that new rules will apply to all applications received on or after Feb 27, 2008. It is NOT the AOR date but when the application was received by CIC in Buffalo. I sent in my application on Dec 2007 and the AOR date is Feb 27, 2008 but for me the IA has been done, medicals done and interview waived off. If it was the AOR date then my application would not have been processed.
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deecee, you're right.
All applications that reached CIC on or after 27th Feb are being awarded "Provisional AORs". The content of the letter goes some what this way...
“This is to advise you that your application for permanent residence has been received at the Regional Program Centre (RPC) and that a provisional file has been created for you. Your file number appears above. Please quote this number in all correspondence with our office."
I sent my application on Feb 04 and received my AOR on Apr 21. I received a regular AOR letter and not a Provisional AOR. This proves that my application will be processed according to old rules as and when it happens.
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hey mescalito, could u please write the names of other forums where u saw the cases with AOR after Feb 27 getting IA?
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Tangocharlie,
I have not claimed to have seen IAs for cases with AORs after 27th Feb. As I said earlier, I'm hoping to see IAs, under old rules, as and when they get issued for cases like mine with AORs after 2th Feb.
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tango
you mixed me up for mescalito. for other forums, see www.canadavisa.com problem is they don't have a table like the one on trackitt.com. You will have to read some of the chats. look for deepgagan on canadavisa.com. read some of the chats on immigration.ca too.
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sorry for confusion and thanks for info. good luck.
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I know deepgagan, his timeline is not right. He has his timeline on trackitt too. He applied afetre Feb 27. His file can not have been processed because he applied after Feb 27. Besides he applied in india, not in Buffalo. He gave misleading information.
SOMETHING IS HAPPENING AT CIC.
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Look, among the applications filed in late December, in January, and February, Cosbila is the only one who received his IA. This is no coincidence. The reason is that he is the only one who has an AOR date of Feb 27 or before. Note also that his application was filed later than many applications (on January 16 ). IT IS CLEAR THAT CIC IS CONSIDERING THE AOR DATE AS THE aAPPLICATION RECEIPT DATE.
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Tmcanada please do a doublecheck on your observation. My AOR is dated 02/27 but IA has been done.
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Hi tmcanada,
My dear, I am just here in these forums to discuss my case with others. I am not misleading anyone. My dear, you 'Truth prevails'. Tell me, why should I provide the wrong info to my colleagues. They did not harm me any how. So , my dear friend , believe me that the information ( timelines) that I have mentioned in this forum is 100% accurate & not misleading anyone. If , it is doing so then I will not discuss my case with you & other members. Thanks for your anticipation.
With regards,
deep
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Deecee, your case gives me some hope but "on or before Feb 27" and "on or after Feb 27" is a little confusing. I think that the confusion made CIC put "Feb 27" on the right side and gave them the IA. I appreciate that you participate in the discussion although you already have your IA. Since July 1st, everyday I open Trackitt hoping to see some move for AOR after Feb 27. But nothing so far. My observation about Cosbila's case is right though.
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Deepgagan. I did not mean to offend you but how can your application have been processed if you applied after Feb 27? Either you are a Provincial Nominee PNP or a Quebec applicant, or your are applying in family class. In which cases this forum is not for you. Please let us know. We are trying to figure out if the new law will affect us or not. If you do not give more information, you will mislead us. This is our future, our life.
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It is 12:20 in NY, I need to go to bed, hoping that I will see something from CIC in my mailbox tomorrow. Good night everyone and good luck for tomorrow too.
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Hi tmcanada,
I submitted my case at New Delhi office on 30th may 08 as Skiiled worker with AEO approved by HRDC in IT sector. I do not know why you do not have any faith on me. But I will not make a moutain of a mole hill. Leave it intact. Have a good night. Wishing you very happy goodnight & best of luck.
With regards,
deep
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Deepgagan,
the last information you provided is very important to us. You case is special, that is why it is moving so fast. We have regular cases that cannot be compared to yours. Thanks for letting us know the details. Good luck. Don't be offended.
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Deepgagan,
Remember I had similar conversation with you on canadavisa.com. I don't think tmcanada is rude or wanted to call you out. The fact remains that your case is "unusual". You may verify that too by looking at the average timeline for other federal Skilled Worker applicant. To the best of my knowledge, the fact you have arranged employment does not make your application special. And being in IT from india is as common as it can get. I strongly believe the new rule is being applied at special locations and deepgagan is lucky to have been selected to run the new process. He submitted after feb 27th and new delhi has been earmarked by CIC for total revamping. Under new rule, his Arranged Employment becomes critical and such applications will be fast-tracked under the new rule. Good luck Deep, tc and others.
Tango, tmcanada and deeceee look out for dummy59 on trackitt.com. he has AOR of Feb 28th and got his IA on July 25th. he just found time to update his timeline after tango asked him.
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Hi,
Does anybody queried CIC regarding this?
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Hi olusolalekan,
Thnx dear, for understanding my feelings. We are just here for sharing our experiences & reviews with each other. So I must conclude that everybody should help each other & Plz.... do not mislead any one. Bcoz our mischieves may ruin anyone's life or career. So keep to point.
once again thanks for being cooperative. Keep in touch. Bye bye
With regards,
deep
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Hello
I have applied for canda immigration as skilled worker throu agent. Now i have received file no from delhi office. i would like to know that file no and AOR the same thing or both are differant ? now i also recevied AOE from canda and i m waitng my IELTS test result. i hope i will send to new delhi office next month.
Please tell me if both are the not same. where can i check my AOR no.
Sukhvinder
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Hi Sukhi,
My dear brother, File No. & AOR are the same things. It always starts like eg B0123456789. You can look it on your acknowledgement letter. They always mention that this file number should be used for further correspondence with the office.You can check your case in cic.gc.ca at "Check my application Status" by selecting immigration File No from combo box. I want to know your Job field in which you got AEO. Best of luck. Keep in touch.
With regards,
deep.
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Hi Sukhi,
File number and AOR are NOT the same! Acknowlegement Of Receipt (AOR) is what it sounds like, a letter from the consulate/embassy telling(acknowleging) you that they received your application. Your file number is just an identifier on their database. It is just a coincidence that you first hear about your file number, for the first time, when CIC includes it on the AOR letter. I got my File number by e-mail even before getting my AOR letter. AOR is a letter/communication while file number is just an identifier in CIC's database.
Olusolalekan
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hey guys, I wriote email CIC buffalo to ask answer to this question. Here is their answer-
"Dear Madam / Sir,
We are not able to inform you at this time how your application might be
affected by the amendments to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
("IRPA"). You can find information on the newly passed legislation
"C-50" at the following website:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/laws-policy/irpa.asp
Canada's Minister of Citizenship and Immigration will be providing
instruction to visa offices within the coming months. These instructions
will be posted at the following website: www.cic.gc.ca when available.
We would appreciate your cooperation in limiting your communications
with our office until the Citizenship and Immigration Minister provides
new instructions.
Canadian Consulate General Buffalo
Immigration Section
buffalo-im-enquiry@international.gc.ca"
it means they themselve dont have clue what to do with applications with AOR date post-27 feb.
Good Luck to everybody.
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Tango,
Again, your observation may not be correct. What you got from them is a standard automated response for any form of enquiry relating to the new rule. I am sure the CIC officer read a couple of your statements and hit the auto reply mail function. Their response does not address your question of AOR vs Receipt date. They must have received almost a million e-mail asking the same question and they had to have that auto-response to all of us. many people got exact same response word-for-word. Receipt date can NEVER be AOR date. Else they will not have "receipt date' box on the application form. Do you think it is difficult for them to simply say applications not acknowledged after Feb 27th will be subjected to the new rules?
Wait and see.
Olusolalekan
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Thank you Tangocharlie.
This is the standard response they usually give to individual inquiries. I think that Dummy59's case shows that they will process the post Feb 27th AORs. They are just getting slow. I read in a journal article that 2008 is considered a transitionnal year and hence CIC has dedicated only a few number of Immigration Officiers to process applications. This might be why it is taking longer. I also read that some of the applications in the backlog will be presented to the Provinces for a possible inclusion in the PNP program. I hope Buffalo is not considered as part of the backlog. I guess we should be very patient.
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hey olusolalekan and tmcanada, thanks for the input
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Hi
Check the comments of user "vanquisher"
"You may be aware that the parliament of canada has enacted amenments to the immigration and refugee protection act ("IRPA"). These amendments permit the minister of citizenship and immigration to give instructions to officers regarding the processing of certain types of applications filed on or after Feb 27 2008.
Because no instructions have been issued by the minister as yet, we are not able to inform you at this time wheter and how your application might be affected. .............................................. "
The message says applicationed filed on or after Feb 27,2008. As per trackit AORs of Feb 27 and 28 received some communication like IA or transferred.
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Tango,
According to the link you posted http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/laws-policy/irpa.asp there is no confussion whatsoever and i can clearly tell you your confussion is unwarranted. Read this
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Those who submitted an application before February 27, 2008—the day after the federal budget, of which these changes are a part—will continue to be processed under the old system. But the backlog will stop growing and finally start coming down.
Going forward, anyone will still be able to apply, but CIC will no longer be required to process all new applications submitted on or after February 27, 2008.
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jeez!!!! "submitted" is used over and over!!!!!
They are simply busy and slow right now but that doesn't create the confussion you have my friend.
Olusolalekan.
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hi olusalalaken, thanks for clarifiying the doubt... you have been a great help to others who are in same situation as mine.
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Guys, Traveller74 got his IA on August 6th. He just updated his profile. His AOR was dated March 5th. Good news for us.
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I applied on april 22 2008 , havent received any feedback as such till date.
But known from bank today tht they have cashed in the money order by 26th July.
Does anyone has the moneyorder cashed in by CIC?
If yes what does it essentially tell?? Ne idea?
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Chewwe, The best way is to take a look at the Federal Skill Worker table on this site. Look for those who applied at around the same as you. In the table, an April 22nd application received his AOR on August 6th. So, you could receive yours any time now.
I know you are new to the forrum, but if you want your questions answered, try posting them under subjects that are relevant to your queries. Or you can create a new posting. Welcome and good luck
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Thanks Deep
Yes My file no Like B012345789 its 10 alfanumeric number. I have applied as fitneess trainer and my job letter from health club for same as my job. I Have 69 point ( I add 8 marks for english) without my AEO. my IELTS test on 30 aug 2008 so i will send my results next month. I have checked my status at cic.gc.ca on "Check my application Status" there only status "In Process". where can i check more detail in any available like IA etc.
thanks for reply
Sukhvinder
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tmcanada,
Thanks for the update. i was going to send an e-mail to tangocharlie to see traveler74 got his IA even with a March AOR. This month is for March AOR and Seotember will be for April AOR. then it will be us, MAY to take turn in October!!!! Yippii!!!
Olusolalekan
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Sukhvinder,
Patience my friend. You have just started the process. CIC will only show " in process". If you are so keen ask someone in Canada to apply for CAIPS notes for you. I believe you are too early in the game for the CAIPs notes to have any meaning. CAIPS notes makes sense if you feel your case is getting delayed beyond the normal time lines. Relax give your IELTS and let the process take its time.
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Hi Sukhi,
My dear,Did you click on "In Process" ?. When you will click on this link the other windows will open that would tell your processing status. It may be like " We started your application of Dated XX-XX". I think there is no other way to check our application status rather than acquiring CAIPS. But try this right now. Keep patient & have a cushion in your lap. Wait , my friend. We will hear good news very soon after submitting your AEO & Best of Luck for your IELTS exam. keep in touch.
With regards,
deep
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hey guys, those who have AOR in march, get ready to see IA in August/september.... good luck.
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tango,
if you read my post above, I have said it already March AOR = August IA, April AOR = September IA and May AOR = October IA approximately.
I am glad you now know the difference between AOR date and receipt date....lol. The CIC understand the use of English language and could not have made the mistake/confussion you aluded to earlier.
Good luck.
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thanks everybody for constant comments, suggestions and updates.keep it up.
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A prediction - tango to hear from CIC in the next 10 days!
Olusolalekan.
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hey olusalekan, god bless u...i wish the same
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It looks like Sabrinalian got his AI. His update is not very clear but his comments suggest that he got it. His AOR is post-Feb 27. It was dated April 25
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If sabri really received IA means good sign for all. I raised question on his post and he didn't answered yet.
I am guessing he is applied through PNP or his lawer is giving some wrong information.
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his dates do not make any sense. he has given future date for his medical.
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i think he filled medical date by mistake instead on Documents Sent date
sukhvinder
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