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Topic: Will Buffalo office reject my application without IELTS, or request IELTS results?
Posted by gerobo (3) 14 Nov 2008
Hi all,

I know that the IELTS topic has been discussed profusely. However, I wasn't able to find an answer for my particular question.

I submitted my PR application with a written explanation of my English proficiency (which referred to my 3-year US education and work experience) and a reference letter from my US Ph.D. advisor. In my letter, I claimed 16 points, even though I only needed 12 points to reach the minimum of 67 points. I have not yet received my AOR.

To take the IELTS, I would have to go out of state and my time and resources are extremely limited at the moment. So, I was thinking of taking the IELTS only if explicitly requested by the immigration office.

My question is: Should I be concerned that the Buffalo office might *reject* my application because of insufficient points, or should I expect them to send me a request for the IELTS results? If they reject me, I will have wasted all the time since my original application.

Thank you!
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Posted by raymasa (388) 15 Nov 2008
Most of the time they will send you a request, however, I have seen one case where the application was rejected for insufficient points (as the points for language was not allocated as the applicant had requested, had the applicant taken IELTS, there were sufficient points).

It is entirely up to the visa officer reviewing your application to decide. There is no legal requirement for the officer to ask for IELTS. You are required to submit a complete application and therefore it is your responsibility. He/she may decide to ask for IELTS (as in most cases), but may also decide not to allocate your requested points for language and reject your application for insufficient points.

The risk is yours.

Ray
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Posted by grag2 (37) 15 Nov 2008
They requested that I take IELTS. I did not. They continued to process my case however. If I was to do this all over again, I would take IELTS. And the reason being is that they give you 4 months to take IELTS. Meaning, the processing of your file will be delayed for 4 months. Then, if they do not receive a score, they will give you points as much as the officer thinks you should get. That may be less or more than what your IELTS score would have been if you had taken it. Good luck,
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Posted by deecee66212 (12) 15 Nov 2008
Hi. Go ahead and take the test. If you see the trend nowadays they are asking for IELTS even if you have been in an English speaking country for years - working / studing whatever.
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Posted by gerobo (3) 15 Nov 2008
Hello,

Thank you all for your replies.

I decided to follow your advice and registered to take the IELTS test next month. I will probably have the results before receiving the AOR. If I send the IELTS result to the Buffalo office without my case file #, will they be able to "link" it to my original application solely based on the name? Should I wait first for the AOR before sending the test results?

Thank you!
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Posted by gjp1 (32) 15 Nov 2008
Wait for the AOR and then send the results.
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Posted by ajayan (7) 15 Nov 2008
Hi,
I have a similar case. I also hold a PhD and write research articles in English. I fall short of just 1 point to get the required pass marks, if 16 points are not awarded. Some sites (not CIC) mention that the scoring pattern is 2 for basic skill, 8 for medium skill and 16 for high proficiency. If at least 2 points are awarded, I would probably get through. Advise appreciated with respect to IELTS.

aj
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Posted by openoyster (29) 15 Nov 2008
Save time and go to take IELTS. Don't wait for the AOR. Scheduling IELTS can be difficult. Prepare well for the exam as the exam is tricky and you have to know how to approach it to obtain the highest scores poosible. Once you get the AOR and your file file number, write a request to IELTS center to forward your result to Buffalo with your file number.
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