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Topic: racism in canada
hi guys,
this topic is diff from the one normally you see in this forum but i would like to get some info from who are already there in canada or anybody who experienced this...
i was viewing a video on youtube.com about racism in calgary. do you guys have any idea how racism is in calgary?
coz from video it looked very discouraging..... how about toronto....
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i have a few friends living with out any issues , but check this site also www.notcanada.com
guess mixed openions
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I been living in toronto for 2 year, I never felt people discriminating me. People are very friendly here.
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I am working in Vancouver past 15 months. I am the only one person from India. I don't have any problems like racism. The mostly people in Canada are very friendly.
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I live in Calgary for two years now, nothing of that at all. Everything is normal.
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canadians are not racist, most people misunderstand since most immigrants come to canada without knowing how to speak english and/or french fluently. so canadians have a hard time interacting with them, leading to alienation which could easily be misunderstood for racism. Canada is not an extreme racist country at all, although you must accept that there must be some form of discrimination, and this is normal for every country in the world.
i would prefer canada because at least you dont get a rude stare when you talk to a stranger, unlike in my home country.
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actually, a lot of canadians are fairly racist, especially outside of urban areas. it's been my experience that they will be polite and friendly to your face, and then ridicule you behind your back. so it's not an obvious form of racism, which is why many immigrants are mislead into thinking they are welcome...
i've noticed it is particularly bad for indo-canadians for some reason. it's common for canadians to refer to brampton, ontario and surrey, british columbia as "brambladesh" and "surrestan", because of their large indian immigrant populations. and if a group of young male indo-canadians go out to a bar together, it's known as a "brown out" and many other patrons will leave (i've heard of this happening in toronto). these are just some examples.
i personally find this sort of racism more insulting than, say, the american version where they will say it to your face. canada has been disappointing for me socially...i've been here for almost 10 years, and it's been difficult to make friends/connections outside of the immigrant community. anyone else have this problem?
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hey im sorry to hear such thing. but you know....we're already in canada and that should not stop us from reaching our highest limits. Also you cant control what others say behind your back....so why waste your energy getting yourself concerned with them. Everybody knows that if all immigrants pack their bags and leave canada this country would most likely falter against the neighbor to the south. Try your best to improve your credentials and language skills so that you remain as competitive as possible. The problem is that Canadians in general like to think they have everything, which means that they dont really see the need to push their abilities. Most of the people in alberta dont even have a bachelors'.....all immigrants must have at least a bachelors degree to qualify for immigration in the first place...so why not leverage our advantages.
racism is everywhere man...take a step back and see the big picture and continually improve yourself to remain competitive against others and you should have no problem.
best of luck in canada.
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actually, a lot of canadians are fairly racist, especially outside of urban areas. it's been my experience that they will be polite and friendly to your face, and then ridicule you behind your back. so it's not an obvious form of racism, which is why many immigrants are mislead into thinking they are welcome...
I think you might be imagining this. In my experience, you are much more likely to encounter racism in urban areas, than in rural areas of Canada. What differentiates rural Canadians from urban Canadians is that rural Canadians are definitely *not* politically correct. If you have hung around rural Canadians and are getting the impression that they are talking behind your back, it is most likely your imagination, because they are far more inclined to have innocently made off-color comments without thinking about them, than they are to have hidden their true thoughts.
I lived in a small town (population 50 - that's not a typo, population 50). My wife is of East Indian descent, and I am native born Canadian of European descent. The closest "big city" (population 2,000) had an East Indian family (both doctors) who chosen to retire in that small town (they initially immigrated under the "underserved" community program for medical professionals, but had fulfilled the small-town residency requirement over 20 years ago). In addition to this couple, the hospital was populated with a large number of ex-pat South Africans who were currently serving the terms of their "underserved area" visas. The second closest "big town" (wait for it)... population 5,000 had a Jamaican RCMP officer of African descent (wonderful chap, although he did give me a speeding ticket once, grrrr...).
I never saw the slightest indication of racism, but encountered many politically incorrect comments (example: when I said I'll take my coffee black, I'd often get "ohhh, like your women"). Never was there the slightest indication that this was anything more than someone taking an opportunity to make an off-color joke, without regard to how it may be perceived (in general, Canadians will take pretty much any opportunity they can to make a joke). Half of my extended family is of East Indian descent, and they frequently make jokes that are equally off-color (and I love all of them, not a bad bone in their bodies).
I understand how it feels to be immersed in a different culture (I have been the only European for miles around in my wife's home country) but really, for the most part (especially in rural Canada) Canadians are much too engaged in hating the weather, to have any hate left over for people of any ilk :-) |
I am sure that the folks in Notcanada.com are either unlucky or just plain losers. You are not going to land a hi-tech job or a job in ur field or carve a respectable niche for yourself in Canada if u dont speak good english, dont look presentable, fail to integrate /w mainstream society, and did not go to school in a developed country.
obviously, there r fewer jobs in Canada than in USA, and hence Canadian employers r more stringent in choosing their employees.
G luck 2 all of us.
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cnstudd,
I agree to all your points except for the "did not go to school in a developed country" comment. You'd be surprised at the quality fo education in a few not-so-developed but developing countries.
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