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Topic: Anyone with HSMP Approval Letter applying for Tier1 after 1st April
Hi Gurpreet,
One correction in your response - for EC (if applying now) the VAF 9 Form has to be filled not VAF 2.
THanks for the info on liquidity- is this info provided by the vfs or bia office?
regards
IR
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Hi,
I went thru the blog and thought this is the right place to get answers to my question.
I am in UK from past 5 months, and am on allowance model (Means I am not on UK Salary structure and in India I get basic only). My indian salary is not too good and does not allow me to accumulate the required points.
Can you please let me know how should I calculate my income and when to apply? Should I consider both Indian and UK salary when I calculate for the last 5 months?
Shall I aply via consultant? or on my self?
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Hi All
I was discussing wiht BHC and VFS as well about the queries.
I got my approval in the month of february 2008.
I got following information from VFS and BHC.
1.We have to fill VAF 2 form and VAF 9A form as well.In VAF 9A form we have to fill only maintenance section.
2.We have to satisfy the criteria of 2800 GBP in single bank account for 3 months.
3.After that we will get 3 years visa.
I think maintenance criteria applicable for us is not fair.This is a new requirement and we have to unnecessary wait for 3 months time to apply for EC.
Even many aspiring candidates may not be able to apply because HSMP letter may expire by that time if they got it in January 2008.
So i think we should all send e-mail to british high commission saying they should put transitional arrangements for people
having HSMP approval letter.Similar arrangements are in place for UK candidates.For UK candidates till 29th June 2008,they dont have to show 800 GBP for 3 months.If 800 GBP is available in bank account at the time of applying for EC is sufficient.
So similar arrangment should be their for indian candidates as well.
I request all the candidates please bring this point to high commission's notice and request them to do fair job of applying rule for all candidates.So everybody will be benefited.
Please keep posted about the updates you get from vfs or BHC.
regards
Swanand
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Dear Swanand
Did you cross check this informaion from the BIA office?
The VFS is not up to date with the information. The BIA office told me single account is not necessary. As long as the accounts are in the name of the applicant we can submit it.
I think its best to get VFS info and cross check with BIA, and inform them if incorrect information is being provided.
This is really creating a lot of confusion and will hamper our chances if the executives are not properly informed.
regards
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Hi
I got this update from VFS.They have clarified it from BIA.
If you have any feedback from BIA, Please share the feedback received from BIA ,which was saying that it can be multiple accounts?
Can we show investments done in saving account,Fixed Deposits,Mutual Fund Investments and PPF investments?
Can you please clarify,how can we show balance of different account not going below 2800 GBP for 3 months?
Because this is one of the requirement for maintenance of funds.
If you have official updates then it will resolve problems of many of us.Please drop that e-mail at sarjunwadkar@yahoo.com
Also request British high commission in india to reconsider this decision and make some transitional arrangements.
Can you please explain your understanding in detail to me?
regards
swanand
regards
Swanand
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Hi HSMPUK
Are you in UK?
Because i am from India and here we have to talk to VFS and in case not happy with VFS Service we can drop e-mail to
British deputy high commission office in india.
Please send me e-mail address of BIA where you sent e-mail for clarification.
regards
Swanand
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HI..I called up VFS office and those guys told me that i fall under the old rules...i.e. I have to file old VAF2 form and 9A form for EC....Also, Fund Maintainance of 2800 is applicable for me.....I am bit confused about this...I applied for HSMP in mid Feb and got my approval first week on April.....HSMP approval letter is valid for 6 months out of which i HAVE to wait for another 3 months to maintain the funds in my account...
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Hi sachin
i have also applied by feb 18th and got my docs back (approval by 28th march) by 7th april. need to apply for EC now.
1. Can you please let me know what are the application forms we need to fill in and where can they be accessed? from ur post, it says VAF2, VAF9A...They also mention VAF 9B? is that also required?
2. For Fund Maintainance of 2800 GBP, is it needed to be there in our account for 3 months? Does that include our PPF , insurance (say ICICI Prudential) and NSC that we had done in the past as investments?
Maybe if we include all these, it will come to this fugure...
Kindly confirm.
Regards.
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Hello friends,
all know that decision made on my HSMP application on 24/01/2008 and the same was sent to me on the same day.but still i didn't get the documents.so i want to enquiry yesterday i called HO regarding this but iam not getting the correct options iam confusing can any one help me to which options i will have to select.
thanx and regards,
chandra.
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Hi vikas,
i have also got approval in FEB, because of new rules i ll be waiting till july to qualify the 3 month bank balance. if we are in touch , we can be on same page for all kinds of documents before going for EC.
thanks,
hsmpian.
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Hi,
I have got approval in march and have applied for visa in first week of april. I confirmed from vfs that old rules will apply.
Also, they didnt tell me anything abt 2800 pounds requirement & the new form. So essentially I have declared all my assets wgich are 5K +. But my bank details has < 2800 pounds.
I am now worried after reading these posts.
Let me know if smeone gets more info.
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Hi Swanad,
In fact I sent a request to chennai consulate to reconsider Maintenance Fund requirement for Indian Applicants and same break should be applicable for Indian Applicants as it has been already relaxed for UK applicants who are applying before 29th June 2008.
Let them response. Will post the response if i receive any.
Thanks
Sanjit
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Hi Sanjit
Thanks for taking the initiative.
I have also sent e-mail to mumbai deputy high commission asking for relaxing this rule for indian candidates.
I will post update if i get any.
You also keep updated if you get any reply.
regards
Swanand
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HI skhsmp / seniorjava
Best of luck for you both. I guess you were the only guys applied in April. It would be great help to all the people in this forum if you guys share your experiances regularly.
Kindly post your timelines I mean When is the date you applied for EC And what's the staus showing aginst your reference no.
Rdg
DINO
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All----
I have read many posts saying that people who have got the approval in April have to manitain the funds (2800) for three months and this is for Tier1 application......
PLease read the link carefully and correct if I am wrong here:
For the people who already have approval letter----
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/hsmp/
""If you already have an HSMP approval letter, you can also use it in your home country, to apply for permission to come to the United Kingdom (known as entry clearance) under either the HSMP or Tier 1 (General), depending on when we close the HSMP in your country""
What I undersatnd from the link below is that it its on our discretion that we want to file EC on the basis of our HSMP or Tier1 (Going straight to Funds Section)...
As we already have HSMP approved under old rules, we can apply for EC filling VAF2 form and need not maintain the funds for three years....(will get viza for 2 years)....We also have option of filing Tier1----going straight to Fund maintenance section of VAF9A form and getting viza for 3 years. For this we need to maintain the funds for 3 months...
Even in our approval letters it mentioned that we can apply for EC under HSMP/Tier1 (General)....
Any comments?
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I sent email to chennai UK consulate couple of days back and they categorically responded that EC officers will reject the EC application for the Applicants with Approval letter under old rule if Maintenance fund is not there in bank account for 3 months.
Thanks
Sanjit
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Hi Seniorjava
Please let us know about your EC application progress.
This will be useful for all candidates who would like to apply in april
regards
Swanand
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Hi
It will be of great assistance if you could answer the following queries. I had applied for HSMP in feb 2008 and had received approval letter prior to April 1, 2008.
1) Is it possible to ask for a post dated Entry-Clearance?
2) The fees for me would be 17425 Rs. How much is it for the HSMP dependant?
3) Now when I go for HSMP EC, Will I get 3 years or 2 years as the
term of stay? Pretty confusing bcos of the transition.
3) My wife will be joining me by August. Will I be able to apply EC
for her now and still she will be able to travel in August?
4) Is a proof of accommodation in UK a necessity?
5) How much bank balance to be maintained if I have 1 dependant?
6) Please send me a complete list of documents required for HSMP EC dependant. Should I attach CV, Cover letter, etc., for her as well?
7) What is the VAF form no. for the HSMP primary applicant and dependant?
Cool She is a Sri Lankan Passport holder and an Indian resident. Will she b able to apply from India?
Thanks and Regards
actuary.jk
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Hi
It will be of great assistance if you could answer the following queries. I had applied for HSMP in feb 2008 and had received approval letter prior to April 1, 2008.
1) Is it possible to ask for a post dated Entry-Clearance?
2) The fees for me would be 17425 Rs. How much is it for the HSMP dependant?
3) Now when I go for HSMP EC, Will I get 3 years or 2 years as the
term of stay? Pretty confusing bcos of the transition.
3) My wife will be joining me by August. Will I be able to apply EC
for her now and still she will be able to travel in August?
4) Is a proof of accommodation in UK a necessity?
5) How much bank balance to be maintained if I have 1 dependant?
6) Please send me a complete list of documents required for HSMP EC dependant. Should I attach CV, Cover letter, etc., for her as well?
7) What is the VAF form no. for the HSMP primary applicant and dependant?
Cool She is a Sri Lankan Passport holder and an Indian resident. Will she b able to apply from India?
Thanks and Regards
actuary.jk
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mssatheesh: Did u read my above post...this is what i think the rules should be for us...(People who have got there HSMP approvals)....Can you also confirm it from your near VFS office...?
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Hi sachin
Your post is interesting. i have mailed the consulate for south (vfsuk.south@vfs-uk-in.com ) regarding the same issue. Let me also go thro the website you've given and look at it.
Regards.
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They dont reply dude...I sent them 2 mails...
May be you can call them ask and SPECIFICALLY about this.....I am trying to call Home office as VFS guys dont have any update on this and they are confused people...I hate there reply "To be on safer side, sir wait for 3 months: -)
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thought about mailing as molsang has received a reply from them in this regard...
is the mail id same as the one i mentioned in the earlier post? if different, kindly let me know.
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Hi sachin01663,
The clause that you are writting -"If you already have an HSMP approval letter, you can also use it in your home country, to apply for permission to come to the United Kingdom (known as entry clearance) under either the HSMP or Tier 1 (General), depending on when we close the HSMP in your country"
--according to me means, if you apply for EC on or before 31st May (the day HSMP was closed in India), you come under old rule is HSMP, After 1st April it will be Tier1 from india.
If you read through
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/part6a/
245F. Transitional arrangements --> section (c) it should be clear
Also -->
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/hsmp/
States -->From 1 April 2008 applicants in India should not apply under the HSMP. From this date, anyone in India wishing to come to the United Kingdom as a highly skilled migrant should apply under Tier 1 (General) of the points-based system.
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Hi Guys,
Rules are ok, but still not clear with one thing, people who have applied for initial approval before 31st March 08 (i.e. with old HSMP rules) and waiting for approval, will they be assessed based on new EC rules or as per transitional rules? B'coz somewhere I read that the transitional rules will be applicable for those who are going to apply for EC before 29th June 08.
Any views on this?
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Hi pranavb
even if we assume its transitional rules if we apply b4 29th june, what are those rules pertaining to the funds maintenance?
thats what is ambiguous.
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Hi moolsang
reg the mail u received from chennai consulate, did they specifiaclly mention that the maintenance funds that should be there in the bank account for 3 months prior to application is 2800 GBP?
Bcoz one of my friend who was planning to apply told me that 2800 GBP has to be there in your account at the time of application, and 800 GBP has to be there for 3 months...
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I had called up VFS banglore . They said that now form 10 & maintenance fund is compulsory, though they were not sure abt my case's outcome as it has happened in initial april & they started asking for the form after receving notification from high commision. Too much confusion.keeping fingers crossed.
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Hi All,
First of all, i received response from Checnnai UK Consulate Casework team and not from VFS South Office and they mentioned "maintenance fund" i.e 2800 GBP should be there in bank account for not less than 3 months, otherwise EC officers won't accept the case.
After that, I sent another email to Chennai Consulate requesting them to re-consider the duration of having "maintenance fund" since already rule break has been given to applicants from UK who are applying before 29th june, i did not receive any response of my second email.
In this forum, some other guys contacted Mubai Consulate for same reason and waiting for response.
Thanks
Sanjit
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Hi Sanjit
I had sent e-mail to mumbai consulate for re considering the decision of 2800 GBP in bank account for 3 month.
But so far no e-mail communication received from mumbai consulate.
I did got reply from delhi consulate,in which they have mentioned that people with HSMP approval letter will
follow old rules but they have to satisfy 2800 GBP criteria for 3 months period.
so lets wait and watch.whether they put transitional arrangements for indian candiates?
regards
swanand
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Hi Sanjit & Swanand
Thanks for the update. I too sent a mail to the Chennai consulate citing the difference in the treatment for applicants from India and UK....
It will be good if they reconsider the case for applicants from India, though not sure whether this will be possible...
Regards,
Satheesh
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VAF9A and 9B both are for main applicant. I don't think there is something similar for dependent since dependent is not require to submit the financial soundness.
for better understinding u can contact at
E-mail: Vfsuk.south@visa-services.com
Help line Numbers: 65850332 / 65850333
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you can not add ur allowances earned from UK visit for 5 month. that is part of ur daily expense not salary.
but u can add any reimbursement form ur company for this.
There is no point of going with the consulatant from India.
you can send a mail to me at gagan.joshi007@gmail.com for further discussion.
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Hi molsang
i mailed the chennai consulate at the following id but it didn't reach them...the id i used is VisaEnquiry@fco.gov.uk
Did you have any other id from which you received a reply?
Regards.
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Hi friends,
Am also feeling same. I got approval in january. I have 2800 GBP in my account. But if i have to maintain it for 3 months means it would be impossible applying for EC. Would you guys please furnish the email id's of Mumbai or chennai consulates so that we can contact and ask for relaxation. I have got communication from VFS in march that if i have to apply in April i don't have to whow funds for 3 months> i have based this one n didn't apply .Now if they say i have to show for 3 moonths...We will rise this issue to british consulates..
Thanks,
Phani.
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bphanirajkumar ---May be you can call British High Commission-Chennai on Monday at 04442192310. They are open from 8.30 AM to 11.30 AM only for queries....
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Hi sachin,
Thanks for your info. Have u come across situation like me? ...
Rgds,
Phani.
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There was another case like yours , dont remeber the name of the person, he got his approval in Jan...but he did not wait for 3 months criteria and applied for EC.....in mid april
He has not got any decision yet on his .....I think even you can apply for EC as got your approval before 1st april and you fall under old rules....You should go for just VAF2 form and not VAF9.
and moreover you dont have any other option.....This is my understanding.... Regards
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Yes sachin,
U r true.. i dont have any other option...I was just hopeing that British high commision may relax rules for us also...nothing more thatn...i will apply soon...Please inform me if u find any guy like me.my id is bphanirajkumar@gmail.com
Rgds,
Phani
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Can an applicant be refused EC because of his dependants visa application history?
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Hi all,
I am currently in uk and i applied for hsmp visa in February from here and have got a approval letter in april..
i have certain question.plz help me if someone has a answer to my questions
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1)what form do i need to fill up when i come to india for entry clearance,what are the documents i need to submit.
2) how much funds do i need to show in my account.
thanks..
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I have got my HSMP approval at 1st April.I have asked to Bangalore VFS office.They have replied me....
the applicants who are already holding an
HSMP approval letter is required to fill VAF-2 and VAF-9A.
In VAF-9A, the applicant required to satisfy English and the maintenance
attributes of the PBS criteria
The applicant is required to provide 6 months bank statements in which
the last 3 months should reflect 2800 GBP.
As long as the funds are held in a personal bank account covering the
3 month period and a letter from the bank accompanies the evidence of
these funds
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Hi itsaurabh1,
Did u get your Hsmp approval letter from India or uk.coz i have seen the website and it says that u need to have 800 pound or above...and i have seen the website it says.
If you have been issued with an HSMP approval letter, you must now make a Tier 1 (General) - highly skilled worker application. You are automatically awarded the 75 points required to qualify under the attributes points assessment of Tier 1 (General) - highly skilled worker and the 10 points required for English language. You will still need to meet the maintenance requirement and other general requirements of Tier 1 (General).
If you already have a valid HSMP approval letter, you do not need to fill in the attributes section of the points assessment and should go straight to the maintenance section of the application form.
please let me know if u have further queries.
Appreciate it.
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hi All,
i went to the VFS Global , Hyderabad office today.
The enquiry person there told me that you need to show the minimum of 2800 GBP in your account, for a consecutive period of 3 months .
When I asked him that can I show the same amount by going for loan, and showing it in my account for 3 months ??,to which at first he said that , any kind of loan is not allowed, and the EMIs should not be connected to the bank statement you are showing.
But later when i asked him to cross confirm it , he asked his seniors and told me that , you can show thw loan amount in your account , but along with that u need to show the loan sanction letter and a covering letter stating the purpose and basis of the loan ( if taken against property).
My question is , i m planning to take the personal loan , and not applying on the basis of property .
Is it ok ??
Based on my salary, education and age, i m already scoring sufficient points.
I am worried , that during the interview process, i might be disqualified because i have taken loan.
Any one else with similar case ??
Also has nyone got the experience of HSMP interview , in recent days ??
If so , what kin d of quetions are asked ??
Please Help ..
I m waiting for all u ppl to reply.
thanks in advance
Sameer
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Thanks! Shahnawaz
I have got HSMP approval from india only.I was also worring that again i have to prove my english eligibility.
One more question ,Please clarify me ,To maintain fund i am taking money from my friend He is going to transfer 6000$ from US in my account.Is it ok?
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Hi
Regarding the maintenence funds- the VFS says we have to have the 2800 pounds in a single bank a/c over 90 days.
The balance cannot dip below this amount anytime during that period even if the opening and closing balance is above/ same.
Also insurance/ shares/ mutual funds/ cannot be a part of the liquid funds.
Also we cannot show family support.
This is really ridiculous because now I will have to sell shares to show money in a bank a/c which is such a waste.
Or have to wait 3 months for it to build up.
Any advise from anyone who has applied for EC recently and got it?
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hi hsmpuk15,
which center did u visit ?? because today morning itself i had been to VFS Global Hyderabad office nd what the enquiry guy clearly told me was that .. u can show insurance/ shares/ mutual funds as part of ur maintenance fund... infact he was showing me some faxed letter clearly mentioning this ...
if that is the case can the loan from bank help?? .. because i m plannig to show the maintenance fund amount by getting personal loan ... will it be ok ??
Sameer
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Hi Sameer,
I called the VFS office and they told me this.
I asked them about the Investments/ MF's and family support specifically- they said since the maintenence will now be under VAF 9 form, we will have to comply with those norms, and the old one has been discontinued.
Let me know if you have written confirmation of some other advise they have given.
Also I have not yet spoken to the BIA office, I think speaking to them will clarify the matter.
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