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Topic: Bill H.R.5921 introduced to eliminate per country visa limits
Good move!
This country is all about equal opportunity for all when it comes to employment.
Employability has nothing to do with national origin!
Thanks to IV efforts! No visa cap for Employment based category. Also Family based per country visa cap shall now be 10% instead of present 7%. http://immigrationvoice.org/media/LOFGRE_059_xml_04292008.pdf
The US also provides a diversity visa lottery for those who thought that Diversity was the original intention when this unfair practice was started.
Also here is the text for Bill 5882 targeting recapture of 218,000 EB visas from unused prior year quotas. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h5882ih.txt.pdf
Please write to your congressman, senators and the President to support these bills.
Best Wishes for all
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Please don't confuse employability with ability to get green card. Being employed by this country does not mean you automatically have the right to be able to get green card quickly. Just say thank you for giving you opportunity to immigrate to the US at all even though it may take a while for people from China, India and Philippines. I don't think diversity is unfair practice. Per country visa limitation allows people from other countries to immigrate in equal numbers with Chinese, Indians, Mexicans confirming what America truly represents: country of immigrants from everywhere. Imagine what will happen without per country limit: the country will be flooded with people from 4 countries just becasue they have better access to american labor market. That is where the whole problem is: the access to labor market: some countries have a lot of talented people who would like to come here but have limited access to american labor market. Did you know what Benjamin Franklin said once a couple of hundred years ago: "limit the number of immigrants coming to US because America heritage and culture will be washed out'. Well, that was extreme statement and did not happen becasue people from hundreds of countries brought their culture and heritage creating what America is now. I want to keep it that way! I hope you do to. Do not downgrade this country to India-China-Mexico-Philiipino-America making it exactly what B. Franklin feared. Please do not judge US current policy from you narrow point of view. Besides diversity lottery provides relatively small number (50,000) of people immigrating compared to all other immigrant visas. Tell me, I've got the point, don't I?
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I think I will create some enemies in the comunity but I post my opinion as well. Just take it for what it is.
I am against removing the per country visa cap.
It is there to promote diversity, to promote exchange of different cultures, to enhance the exchange of different experiences.
Sometimes I think it is also there to prevent things like "little Italy" or "China Town" from happening again.
They are examples from the past where integration within the hosting country (USA) took really a long time.
They are now nice corners of big cities but those areas really went through a lot of troubles.
Probably such realities will not happen again but history is there to teach us.
I feel so sad when I enter some small companies and the majority of the employees are immigrant all of them from the same country. I wonder why they moved here if they are still interacting mainly with people born in the same country.
It is so great where I work, when I enter the building people say good morning in several different languages. It is just a good way to start the day. I learn a lot. People around me learn a lot. It is actually a lot of fun.
If anything (for the same reasons listed above) they shoul add a per country visa cap on H1 visas.
If they do not do so than it is pretty clear that the time scale to get GC for a person from a "oversubscribed" country will skyrocket to the roof (it is already a pretty long wait).
In general I think that the bill about the per country vias cap has no chances to be taken seriously.
The bill about recapturing visa from previous years has high probability of success being it has been done before (I honestly thought there is no need for a bill but they should just apply the rules as they are but I might be wrong). But the problem here is the capability of USCIS to process enough application to use those VISAs. Recent news and report show that they are doing pretty well this fiscal year so maybe this problem is easy to overcome and the process to increase USCIS efficiency is already in place.
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ginetto, the problem is much deeper.
1. It's not about "diversity". Every year there were 60,000 comething H1b visas and 140,000 EB green cards. Which should have taken care of all these visas. The problem is that INS/CIS was wasting these numbers - not doing their job. Congress mandated them with these numbers - they were just sitting doing nothing.
2. The problem is not giving or not giving H1bs. The problem is H1bs should be given to those who deserve it. INS/CIS were handing H1bs on random manner without even carying to verify if a person is in status, if job is valid, etc. This led to clear abuse of H1b program. MOST of the consulting companies abuse of H1b program.
3. Labor certifications were done without even bothering to audit companies and verify the jobs. Basically how it was - you apply for LC, wait for 3-4 years, get approval. These government employees were doing virtually NOTHING - just putting their stamps time-to-time.
4. Green card/EAD/AP approvals were done almost automatically - again after couple of years of waiting.
The thing is, the congressmen, senate - were making laws, thinking how to attract talent. While these idiots sitting in INS/CIS offices were doing NOTHING. NOTHING!!! - making all these laws useless, attracting criminals and cheaters.
So... it really doesn't matter - you put 7% on India/China, 3%, 37% - it all will be the same. What SHOULD be done - is h1 lottery removed. H1bs must be scrutinized, job position/salaries verified. Prevailing wages increased. H1 workers must be protected against abuse, must be able to change jobs more freely, the rules must be made clear - what is "in status", what is "out of status". Labor certification - really be CERTIFICATIONS, not "long wait excuses". Adjustment of status must be really adjustment of status - not "green cards shuffling".
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ginetto is right on the money. the per country cap is not a discriminatory provision of law against countries with high numbers of applicants in both the employment-based and family-based categories like india, china, mexico and previously the philippines (before the rapid movement in its PD), but it protects nationals from countries with less applicants from being drowned out by the competition. the reason the PDs of countries like china, india and mexico have such retrogressed PDs is precisely because such countries have had so much successful approved applications in the past. this provision serves as a check in the country's pattern of immigration from being monopolized by nationals with sheer populations, hence proportionally large applications for US immigration. it is a sort of floodgate against a deluge from immigrants coming from one or two or three countries at the detriment of others.
in other words, the cap helps ensure that diversity is assured with opportunities available for everybody else.
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ADVINM41 "you narrow point of view" -> Please apply it to yourself.
I think we usually maintain some civic sense and respect for each other on these forums. However, looking at your post if you want to get personal, please avoid it!
If I were to briefly use a tone similar to yours - hope now you 'got the point'! So please post views with decency and they shall be respected.
EB visa is for jobs and employment. Seems some folks should read the EEO carefully.
History has sufficient evidences to prove that nothing based upon birth alone can stay forever - Racism died, Empires vanished, ..... It has to be based upon merits needed for its core purpose too. EB visas are for certain key short skills set and has to do more with the profitability and sutsainability of an employer than trying to balance the diversity pool based upon birth!
Diversity is good for its own self and none wants to take away its advantages. Most folks here support diversity, but would not compromise quality for the purpose (Job required skills) instead.
We are all headed to a global village scenario, we may perish much earlier though ;-)
However one examines it, 140,000 well educated professionals cannot cause a flood! However, a single rotten fish can spoil the entire pond. This country is about merits, fairness and mutual respect.
Also, please don't preach diversity to someone from India. Not just because I happen to be from there (and am proud of my roots, just as others may be too), but it is not just another country. India is a sub-continent in itself with 18 national languages(Not dialects) and hundreds of very diverse cultures and customs. Tolerance and respect for mutual faiths and beliefs is a way of life. Since we were lucky to be born and brought up there, we do not mind sharing those virtues just like our other core competencies (and I mean no disrespect to others because everyone of us is special in their own ways).
Best wishes and equal opportunities for all!
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H1 is already open and fair with equal opportunities to folks from all countries.
I agree with Ginetto - > If there had to be limits, then they should have been at the H1 stage - not at a later stage, because thats not providing equal opportunities. My description of unfairness is at that later stage (485/GC) because it leads to segregation and unequal opportunity at this stage between folks who had been at par so far, but just happened to be born in different countries.
Bestia - a very good and informative post. Thankyou.
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I think that when i touched the H1 visa chapter I went a little overboard on my previous post.
Bestia,
Your points are a bit obscure to me being I never bothered to get involved in the past.
I have been working here for 14 years on all possible visitor VISAs.
Now it is time for GC (not really other choices) and so I get involved.
I am still very confused but I am learning.
You point to inefficiencies and unprofessionalism of USCIS/INS/DOL and there it is easy to agree with you.
From what I read there is a lot of pressure from above (politic) to improve the situation.
Recent reports from USCIS (might be biased) are very positive.
Recent requests to USCIS (from politicians) are pretty demanding (see http://kennedy.senate.gov/newsroom/press_release.cfm?id=e6ac4fcb-c344-4b98-9b87-d79d648d8f7d )
I am an optimist and i like to believe that things are getting better.
I do not have much of a choice.
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...Recent requests to USCIS (from politicians) are pretty demanding (see....
A-a-a.. ginetto... read between the lines...
"We are deeply troubled by the serious backlog of naturalization applications pending adjudication at the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)."
NATURALIZATION APPLICATIONS!!!! Who are the politicians? Rrright: Edward M. Kennedy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_M._Kennedy.
Who is he? rright, - DEMOCRAT
Who do you think immigrants mostly vote for? Rrright: democrats.
So the answer to the question: Why Kennedy is pushing for naturalization for those backlogged 1 million applicants? Rrright: to get 1 million extra votes.
Is he really pushing for improving employment based immigration? I DON'T THINK SO. |
I know that but it will imply a review of uscis way to do business. it is a good thing.
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Those who are sponsoring the immigration bill want to capture the votes of the immigrant community. Some immigrants who are now citizen may have a family member whose petition is still pending. T
The antis may also be watching but cannot muster enough information drive to convince people not to vote for the "pro-immigration" politicians. However, the immigrant community is carefully watching and has "pro-immigration" position of the politician on the top of their list.
Politicians are now playing politics....i hope we can get the benefit of this while it is hot.
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well.. ginetto, overall, yeah - I agree. Politicians are pushing on USCIS - and that's good. And I think for the reasons I mentioned above. Because USCIS made the immigration laws a big joke. The idea of "future employment" is just a joke - what kinda "future employment" after 5-6 years of working for that employer? Labor certification - is just a joke. Requesting "paystubs for last 7 years" - is just a joke (why the hell should we keep them?). Politicians know that, USCIS made their crafted laws useless. Of course they are pushing now - and should have been pushing long ago.
I agree that USCIS somewhat improved their work - but still they have long way to go.
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Well .... Italians, Germans , Brits are well represented in USA, where as % of immigrants from countries such as India is relatively small . People know what kind of majority made the law. So, don't worry about overall diversity getting upset. Whichever country is under represented should be given more "numbers" ( out of that fixed yearly allocation ) and monitored ( if their population gets significant ).
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ginetto: "I am against removing the per country visa cap"
I'm with you, agreed.
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I don't think it will solve the problem. It is only geared towards equal share of misery but the problem is still there - not enough visas to cater for EB applicants. We need additional number of visas per year or atleast remove the dependents from the count.
Don't get me wrong. I am for it but it should be accompanied by additional visas or removal of dependents from the count. A stronger labor certification process must also be put in place to avoid fraud.
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I don't think it will solve the problem. It is only geared towards equal share of misery but the problem is still there - not enough visas to cater for EB applicants. We need additional number of visas per year or atleast remove the dependents from the count.
Don't get me wrong. I am for it but it should be accompanied by additional visas or removal of dependents from the count. A stronger labor certification process must also be put in place to avoid fraud.
I'm not trying to get you wrong, but listen to yourself "We need additional number of visas per year or atleast remove the dependents from the count". Why do you think USA need all of this? Please, let THEM decide, ok? I'm Russian, you are Phillys, who told you we are welcome here? :(((( Don't tell me 'US needs us' and so on ... if they NEED, they will do anything to achieve it. US need oil - here they are with the war in Asia ...
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Well then, if US don't need us, what is LC process and i-140 process all about? If I will follow your line of thinking, US should abolish the USCIS and replace it with War for Oil Commission or are you just being sarcastic?
Anyway, it just so happens that the US now has a Republican president. It will be different when a Democrat sits in the Whitehouse. Under the Clinton Administration, we felt that US needs us (immigrants).
By the way, where did I say "US needs us" in my previous post? I said "We need...".
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...I'm Russian, you are Phillys, who told you we are welcome here?...
Wait a minute... 1999... Dulles International Airport... After 4 hours of interrogation, INS inspectors let me in... when I was walking through the last officer he smiled at me and said "Welcome to America!"... So... I believe him :) He told me I'm welcome here - he was an employee of an elected government... |
...I'm Russian, you are Phillys, who told you we are welcome here?...
Wait a minute... 1999... Dulles International Airport... After 4 hours of interrogation, INS inspectors let me in... when I was walking through the last officer he smiled at me and said "Welcome to America!"... So... I believe him :) He told me I'm welcome here - he was an employee of an elected government...
I think he is just being sarcastic with the comments about war, etc. It is a statement of someone who's fed up with the system and I wonder why he's still here talking about immigration to US. A person, if in his/her right mind, should not pursue immigration to the place where he/she is not welcome.
I feel welcome too that's why I am still pursuing it. The system is still there. The person running the system must be replaced. A democrat can do that. It was done during Clinton's time. |
I think he is just being sarcastic with the comments about war, etc. It is a statement of someone who's fed up with the system and I wonder why he's still here talking about immigration to US...
Yeah, I agree... Goblin will be fine :) when he will get his green card the food will taste better, the birds will start singing differently, women will look prettier - he will feel welcome here :)
..The system is still there. The person running the system must be replaced...
With that person I agree, but with democrats - I don't. Don't forget that illegals got amnesty during democrats, while legal immigrants were left in limbo - their cases were delayed, because INS was busy handing GCs for illegals. This worsened situation even more - now we got 10 times more illegals just waiting for democrats believing in another amnesty.
It was democrats who increased H1bs to 115000, but doing nothing for labor certification process, which caused huge backlogs in LC. During democrats thousands of people's cases were lost, misplaced, etc.
While it was republicans who implemented PERM - which let so many people get green cards in 2 years. Republicans implemented paper reduction act, so you can keep checking your status online. Republicans eliminated labor backlogs.
I disagree that republicans are "anti-immigrants". Coming democrat era won't bring anything good, mark my words - the only good thing - they will stop the war (they have to, or this country will collapse). But other than that - it will be the same online checking, same trackitt, same TSC/NSC calling, same officer Laurie, same old us :) |
I grudgingly acknowledge that there needs to be diversity in immigration.
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bestia,
Very nice points. I had made a similar argument that H1bs are being given out with little standards in place and therefore the huge backlogs for people from India in a Lou Dobbs bashing forum earlier. The floodgates need to be tightened at the H1 b stage by allowing only those who have "real" jobs in the US. Not just jobs with IT consulting firms which keep them on bench and don't pay anything. Stricter policing rules should be in place for employers who do not generate monthly pay stubs etc.
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ADVINM41 "you narrow point of view" -> Please apply it to yourself.
I think we usually maintain some civic sense and respect for each other on these forums. However, looking at your post if you want to get personal, please do not hide behind the web - you know it very well that everyone is traceable!
Sorry if you felt offended, but if I were to briefly use a tone similar to yours - hope now you 'got the point'! Either way I am not interested in forcing my views on others or tracing you :-(. So please post views with decency and they shall be respected.
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You are one angry person, dude. I did not say anything offensive to you. Your point of view represents where you are coming from and therefore narrow. People who made policy are born here and therefore they know better what this country needs. You may say that mine is narrow as well, then look at my country of nationality in my profile - it is one of those 4 countries that send majority of immigrants but I don't want to make this country Phillippines #2. You are not happy with the policy, waiting times etc. you can always go back to India - no one keeps you here. 140,000 will eventually create a flood if they are given to mostly people from those 4 countries. There are many talented people in the world that can meet US employer needs and goals of profitability and sustainability, they unfortunately have more limited access to US job market.
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well.. ginetto, overall, yeah - I agree. Politicians are pushing on USCIS - and that's good. And I think for the reasons I mentioned above. Because USCIS made the immigration laws a big joke. The idea of "future employment" is just a joke - what kinda "future employment" after 5-6 years of working for that employer? Labor certification - is just a joke. Requesting "paystubs for last 7 years" - is just a joke (why the hell should we keep them?). Politicians know that, USCIS made their crafted laws useless. Of course they are pushing now - and should have been pushing long ago.
I agree that USCIS somewhat improved their work - but still they have long way to go.
It's a good one.... |
I am from India but support per country limit. There must be a diversity not just India, China, MExico and phillipines
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ADVINM41
Both your post and your tone were offensive. And I do not think that we have to say "Thank you" to anyone - we have a contract in place - we work they pay, period. Since they liked our work, they offered us to stay here permanently and we accepted that offer, period.
By the way, just in case - nobody keeps you here either...
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Hi Goblin,
I totally disagree with you. US is not fighting for Oil, if that is the case why the Oil price is $3.50 avg. Think about it, why they are fighting or watch news.
And I totally agree with July31stRun. They have to go by removal of dependents from the count.
...Have fun
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I fail to see how per country visa quota scheme is justifiable if it does not take into account the population, number of current and past applicants, applicant's categories of choice etc. If the system is not perfect, acknowledging thus is the first step towards rectifying the problem.
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This is not about diversity or the lack of. The primary motivation behind this bill (although misplaced) is to effectively maximize the distribution of future EB visas more towards India and to a lesser extent China because they have been waiting in the queue the longest. These future EB visas will come from a new yearly 140k quota, recapturing 200k wasted visas as in the currently proposed law in Congress HR 5882 , or maybe even cap increases in the future if we are lucky. I can understand the Indian lobby, ImmigrationVoice's frustration: whatever gains they make by increasing available visas and thereby pushing the Visa bulletin forward, it really doesn't matter because the Indians due to their disproportionately larger share of EB applicants, hit the country cap extremely fast while ROW, China, Phillipines and Mexico moves ahead - the Indians get left behind. I mean just look at the current visa bulletin, EB3 ROW is almost current at March 2006 while EB3 India is still stuck at 2001. Who wouldn't feel frustrated in this situation?
But removing country caps ALONE is not the solution. If this thing is implemented all it will do is get a lot of Indian EB3s with 2001 or 2002 PDs their GC in the next year or so, but after that everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, in EB3 would be stuck somewhere in 2002 and the EB2s somewhere in 2004 or 2005. This is the case even you figure in all the other proposed EB bills this year: HR 5882's 200k recaptured visas, HR 5924's making Schedule A nurses (Philippines) quota exempt, making STEM fields quota exempt (I think IV will introduce a STEM exempt bill soon - check their website). Why? Because anyway you slice and dice it and no matter how current the Visa Bulletin is, USCIS's max speed limit is less than 140k per year (they waste a lot of visas every year) and being that there are 700k+ pending 485s now, at 140k/yr it will take MINIMUM 5 years to clear out 700k+ cases - even at max speed. You KNOW, that USCIS will never hit that speed limit, so that actual wait will be longer than 5 years - my guess is 8 years. The real solution is to combine theses things with new Visa increases (possibly more than doubling the 140k annual quote to 300k), completely removing EB dependents from EB quotas, and the most important of all dramatically increase USCIS funds + staff + resources towards AOS cases -- what good is more visas if they waste tens of thousands of visa every year anyway?
What I fear most, is that ImmigrationVoice people succeed in removing country caps from next year, but then completely fail in the other things I just mentioned. They might mot be able to get anything done next year because of more legislative inertia and protectionist sentiments fueled by the recession. What would complicate the situation even more is that after elections, instead of clearing the existing EB backlog, congress gets back to their complete-EB-overhaul thing like last year. That would really leave everybody in limbo. Everyone (Indians and ROW alike) already condemned to a 5 to 8 year year wait at the point, will now have to restart the process from scratch. It would throw everything out of whack.
Removing country caps is not a solution. The IV dudes need to either combine it with other more effective measures, which I have pointed out, or not do it at all. Because on it's own it's just a hollow symbolic gesture. Congress is already doing that now :)
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trend06, I agree with most of what you said, though I doubt if even half of it will make it anytime soon. another 2 months and we will will be in the midst of republican AND democrat election juggernaut focusing on illegal immigrants. on the other hand, i still do not reconcile with the idea that diversity implies equal representation, damn be other factors! sheer number belie this logic- a country of population 1 million does not even need same number of visa as a country of population 1 billion.
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Here is my 2 cents...
If US thinks diversity is in its best interest, it should there! we are no one to question that. However, if the so called diversity could not fill their visa numbers, they should be passed on to others waiting in line rather than just wasting. This is a fair thing to do because we are talking about EB visas which are basically with a presumption that this country needs skilled labor which is obviously higher priority than diversity. Again, these are 'Employment based' and NOT 'Ethnic based'.
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Of course you will make some enemies because most of them are from India!!!
I totally agree with you.
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Great! Now you are classifying skilled immigrants from other countries as "low quality"
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I am willing to give my visa number to someone else to make this world more PEACEFUL. we already have enough stress in real life, so we better make our life better by supporting each other rather than fighting. No one has control over ones complexion or country of birth. No one can choose its parents and every child thinks that his parents are the best in the world. I think people around here are acting like small kids saying my father(country) is the best , my father(country) is the best....
We are mature people and should have respect for each other.
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Folks who harbor bitter feelings against India/China - please open up your mind -- it is not just the huge quantity -- there is a lot of quality in those numbers too. The way I look at it:
(1) What is good for me (as a person standing in GC line)
(2) What does this country need.
(1) - is obviously going to vary from person to person. (2) I don't think creating a landmass of equal number of people from every part of world is a good policy - not to the extent that they have to twist/turn the rules to make sure everyone gets a chance. They should definitely concentrate on quality. That needs a stricter check on approvals of all sorts of petition and it is not going to happen soon.
Sure H1b is abused by some firms, some countries definitely have a better access to labor market but why become sore about it. It does not come for free: the education system is very rigorous, you really have to very good to get into professional education courses. It is not that all of a sudden you land a job in USA one fine day. Do not get me wrong I do not mean to say that other parts of the world does not have merit -- it definitely does. You are obviously going to see more people around you from these countries: simple math (ratio).
If you weren't educated to respect people from all nationalities and beliefs your credentials are not even worth a spit forget about GC.
In a nutshell: I strongly condemn any posts that are racist remarks from people against some countries (mostly India and China) who are fed up with this immigration system or are narrow minded. stop being sore loosers.
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Of course you will make some enemies because most of them are from India!!! I totally agree with you.
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A person who cannot see fairness through equality is anyway bound to have enemies.
Great! Now you are classifying skilled immigrants from other countries as "low quality"
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I donno where did you this get from. Looks like this is your own imagination. I dont think anyone has said this.
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You know what..the simple solution to all these troubles on backlogs, per country limits etc...
1. Allow GC filings for those who filed 3 yrs continuously and physically lived in US (50% time of H1 time at least).
2. Grant perm residency for those who applied GC if waiting for 5yrs and filed W2's for 5 yrs and If no approval out.
3. Slash all EB1, 2, 3 Classification..just make it EB. It is not fair even if EB2/EB1 came recently and gets GC faster than EB3 waiting for long time and paying taxes etc.. FIFO ....
Fair deal? :)
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universal,
read jhaalaa's first comment paragraph 6 about quality.
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universal,
I meant second posting, not first
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Well, I for one, would not support anything that comes from IV. It is a selective immigration advocacy group.
I'd rather stand for this first:
Plan for Immigration
“The time to fix our broken immigration system is now… We need stronger enforcement on the border and at the workplace… But for reform to work, we also must respond to what pulls people to America… Where we can reunite families, we should. Where we can bring in more foreign-born workers with the skills our economy needs, we should”
— Barack Obama, Statement on U.S. Senate Floor, May 23, 2007
Yeah baby!
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universal,
I meant second posting, not first
Are you referring to this?
"Diversity is good for its own self and none wants to take away its advantages. Most folks here support diversity, but would not compromise quality for the purpose (Job required skills) instead. "
I agree 100% on above comment.
Now, from above statement, if you conclude that "skilled immigrants from other countries as "low quality"".... what can I say my friend? Ofcourse it is your imagination or interpretation of statement and I am sure not many people will agree with your conclusion. |
All,
I am an EB3 ROW applicant and have a couple of questions about bill HR 5921. Hopefully someone will be able to shed some light, or point me in the right direction for answers to these questions.
1. How will EB3 ROW applicants benefit from this bill?
2. What are the chances of this bill getting approved?
Thank you.
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if the so called diversity could not fill their visa numbers, they should be passed on to others waiting in line rather than just wasting. This is a fair thing to do because we are talking about EB visas which are basically with a presumption that this country needs skilled labor which is obviously higher priority than diversity.
Are you sure that visa wasting is due to a lack of skilled ROW professionals?
If this were true, all ROW category would be current, would not? |
Per Country Quota and EB classification are VERY MUCH FARE for two simple reasons:
1) To ensure cultural diversity in US which is more representative of the whole world than just 2 or 3 big countries
2) There is a difference between a person who kicks his/her butt to get a Ph.D., degree and the one with a bachelor's degree (in terms of educational level) and this should be factored into the employment/skills based immigration categories
My 2 cents ... One can of course agree or disagree with it :)
Jawee
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ROW ED has already benefiting maximum from current system. Evidence is that their dates are far far ahead of Non-ROW. So, I don't think ROW needs to worry of the bill even :)
Hello, Tonns of people who filed in EB3 are well qualified for EB2 even.... lot of employers did filed most into EB3 due to lack of knowledge/experience with immigration system or keep employees hang in loop for long time.. I am sure lot of businesses would like long delays in EB3.
Ph.D related are for EB1 and for a special jobs/purpose but it doesn't mean they can jump ahead of line just because of got higher degree unless it really a super urgent for research, medical etc...If they super priority..they shouldn't even be in EB category at all..
To justify all,
When met basic requirement for a job, people should be in line based on applied date..
Shouldn't matter EB1/2/...Slash all EB sub categories and let FIFO based on PD is fair actually. This way no one would be forced to wait than others... there won't be too much backlogs.
This is all actually a political decisions reflects on to immigration... at end, Gov would find balance between cultural diversity and talent requirements.
America needs more and more talented work force to compete globally... just cultural diversity doesn't keep country competetive enough.. Else a decade or Two, ends up declaring 'TALENT STIMULUS PACKAGE' with an exceptions for Employment based perm residency and 'ILLEGAL STIMULUS PACKAGE' or 'ROW STIMULUS PACKAGE', 'Non-ROW STIMULUS PACKAGE' ETC :) ETC :) .
Of course, One can agree or disagree with it :)
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I respectfully don't agree with lumping Ph.d's and Bachelor's in the same immigration category at all even though I am not a phd holder. This is just not fair to them.
There should always be a per country quota (to ensure cultural diversity). However, if there are unused visas for one country, then it should be used towards other countries (depending upon the demand ratio) where demand exceeds supply. This is to ensure that all 140K visas get used up every year.
This is fair share logic and I am sure all of us have read it at some point in our lives.
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there are so many visas gone wate unused...that's the main reason for backlog..since few years.....if Ph.D's are so special, they better be seperated as special category out of EB* ..:)
When u go to buy a ticket, U will stay in line ..same thing ..fair share is to be in line based on PD and US work history or put automatic upgrade if any lower EB applicant gets next higher level qualifications before approval.... otherwise,
There should be a reserved fixed cap for EB1/EB2 per year say 5000 like that ... if excced it, then put them back to line until reserved re-opens again, use remaining to next highly demanded EB* PD FIFO..
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