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Topic: very few approvals today
What are you talking about??? 8 years -- apply for citizenship in 5 years and go from there. Staying 8 years with the same company plus the initial time you already put in to get your GC doesn't exactly look good on a resume either -- I'd interpret it as "wasn't qualified for anything else and not attractive to other companies."
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Swoca.... one problem with this "diversity" idea on employment based folks... The thing is.... These Indians/Chinese are here already, right? A lot of them have US born kids, houses. Most of them are already "Americans". How keeping them on EAD/AP cycle is serving purpose of "diversity"? I mean... these are same people with EAD/AP and these are gonna be exactly same people but with GCs. Same race, same culture, same language...
Doesn't make sense to me...
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Swoca.... one problem with this "diversity" idea on employment based folks... The thing is.... These Indians/Chinese are here already, right? A lot of them have US born kids, houses. Most of them are already "Americans". How keeping them on EAD/AP cycle is serving purpose of "diversity"? I mean... these are same people with EAD/AP and these are gonna be exactly same people but with GCs. Same race, same culture, same language...
Doesn't make sense to me...
u r making lot of sense today.. where did u get ur head serviced today :) LOL LOL..
BTW did u hear anything abt ur RFE? mine is still hanging somewhere! |
where did u get ur head serviced today :) LOL LOL..
By officer Laurie :) she is on duty today... When I asked her to transfer the call to an immigration officer, she said "I'm the immigration officer"... duh... (needless to say it was useless) |
Hi there Bestia,
I hear your argument but honestly, I don't think the fact that we "are already here" or "are already [feeling like] americans" is in itself grounds for a change in legislation. How we feel and our personal sense of entitlement is not the US government's concern. While it's important to ensure that people's needs are not ignored, the shortage of skilled labor IS the US governments problem and THAT is a damn good reason for them to increase the number of visas.
When you enter on H1B, you enter as a temporary worker. Period, period, period!!!! Anything beyond that is gravy. In my opinion it would be nice if that time was somehow credited in a way. For example, reducing time to citizenship by 1 year for every 3 on H1B, or whatever. But that is probably wishful thinking.
I also would argue that in most situations, truly intolerable H1B working conditions are often the result of what amounts to be a bit of a shonky arrangement in the first place. Situations which may not even be strictly in line with the purpose of H1Bs and would likely result in DOL revocations.
I don't accept that just because they grant you 6 years of H1B they are somehow indebted to us to be permanent residents. There is no mention of us being granted that right when we accept working under H1B.
I'm sorry. I just don't accept that the US doesn't have the right to manage its immigration mix. I DO accept that we feel hardship and that after 'rooting' one's self, is painful to leave. But this is a known risk, a known factor, and the frustrations of immigration are known by most applicants ahead of time.
That is not to say that it can't be improved. But improvements must serve address the needs of both U.S. AND immigrants. And what is fair to the immigrants, may always be perfectly aligned with what is acceptable to Americans.
Finally, remember this. For the overwhelming majority of those waiting, green does come. It's just WAY OVERDUE :-)
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Swoca,
Of course I agree with overall idea that the country has right to manage its immigration mix. But that management has to make sense. It should be a real "management" - not lousy excuse for these backlogs.
Yes, H1s are temporary, BUT - they are dual intent. I agree, - you are temporary worker. But once you have approved LC and I-140 - you aren't temporary anymore. I-140 is an immigrant petition. So US government approves I-140s without any country caps, and only on last stage, I-485, all of a sudden starts worrying about "diversity". Smells BS, isn't it?
So... 100% of H1bs can still go to India, leaving 0 to others. They all get LC/I-140s approved. Yet, India will still have 7% cap - meaning the rest of EB visas will be just wasted. And yet - Indians would be waiting 7-10 years for their GCs, filing extensions, struggling with DLs, etc. etc. Does it make sense? Where is the "diversity"? What kinda "management" is this?
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Its nothing but "Indian Cast reservation" system...ages ago when it was implemented, there may be some reason/s .....but now it doesn't make sence (IMHO)
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Hi Bestia,
I agree with you in many respects.
Management of the process is difficult. But you know, any process would be fraught with some kind of problem. It's just that this particular problem impacts people from 4 countries worse than others.
There is a disconnect between I140s and I485s. But if they imposed the same restrictions on I140 you'd all be crying murder, right? So it seems that everytime the government does something to provide relief, (give an inch), everyone feels they have the 'right' to the whole yard.
For example, we both know that the July Current bulletin brought huge relief to many people that would not otherwise have been eligible for years. They did this and with it came huge benefits. EADs, AC21, etc. But now people cry about how it's not fair that they don't have their green card yet. Here's the thing. If the flood gate hadn't been opened, these same people would now be saying, "I don't care - just give me my EAD and my AC21". Right?
I honestly feel that the per country caps should continue but there should be many more visas in general for all nations. There should also be less wastage.
I also feel that dual intent does not mean "guarantee". We are free at any time to assess if we are ready to handle the risk and time for a green card and if not, we are free to pursue other options.
I like your respectful way of discussing this with me and thank you for not slamming me. It's good that we can still keep our eye on the same goal but have different opinions along the way.
Cheers Bestia!
Swoca,
Of course I agree with overall idea that the country has right to manage its immigration mix. But that management has to make sense. It should be a real "management" - not lousy excuse for these backlogs.
Yes, H1s are temporary, BUT - they are dual intent. I agree, - you are temporary worker. But once you have approved LC and I-140 - you aren't temporary anymore. I-140 is an immigrant petition. So US government approves I-140s without any country caps, and only on last stage, I-485, all of a sudden starts worrying about "diversity". Smells BS, isn't it?
So... 100% of H1bs can still go to India, leaving 0 to others. They all get LC/I-140s approved. Yet, India will still have 7% cap - meaning the rest of EB visas will be just wasted. And yet - Indians would be waiting 7-10 years for their GCs, filing extensions, struggling with DLs, etc. etc. Does it make sense? Where is the "diversity"? What kinda "management" is this?
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very few approvals today too. :(
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By the way, in the last 2 days, only 4 out of 20 approvals here on Trackitt, are for ROW. The rest are for India.
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oops, I was wrong. 3 out of 20 are ROW. Rest from India.
But yeah, let's get rid of the quota and screw the minorities.
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Just some interesting information for us ROW minority. You can move on, if it does not interest you.
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oops, I was wrong. 3 out of 20 are ROW. Rest from India.
But yeah, let's get rid of the quota and screw the minorities.
Keep on counting buddy...
We are going to take over the WORLD!!!! HA HA HA .. What can you do? Other than just whine? Pity Pity....
Today 3/20, tomorrow 1/100 ... and you will be in agony ... crying...
What are you going to do about it my friend? Just post the statistics here for our enjoyment while you feel pity? Deep down in your heart? Bad... Bad... Bad.... |
ROW folks will have to see how the EB3 retrogression hits them. This is a scam if you ask me - first you cant apply for 485 because PD is not current. Then processing times are super slow because the entire universe got to apply in July fiasco. Not to mention, once the PD is not current anymore, then processing times dont matter because you cant get a visa number allocated to you. I mean this is a solid manipulation from all sides - close one door, open another door, then close it again before you can get to it :-)
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Just some interesting information for us ROW minority. You can move on, if it does not interest you.
then say ROW in the title... so i can move on. Why are you every single day crying about number of indian approvals... R U Racist
First of all, it would be nice if you would write in English in this international forum for American immigration.
Second of all, the nature of threads is that they change subjects, and new information is added. I opened the thread to note the low number of general approvals. Somebody mentioned that most are Indians, and this information is relevant to me and other ROW people, so we discussed that.
If you have a problem with that, look elsewhere. And be careful not to blame somebody for being racist without any justification. |
Once again a topic of valid respectful discussion gets taken over by mudslingers.
Every time I see it I am greatly disappointed.
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I am willing to give my visa number to someone else to make this world more PEACEFUL. we already have enough stress in real life, so we better make our life better by supporting each other rather than fighting. No one has control over ones complexion or country of birth. No one can choose its parents and every child thinks that his parents are the best in the world. I think people around here are acting like small kids saying my father(country) is the best , my father(country) is the best....
We are mature people and should have respect for each other.
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I am willing to give my visa number to someone else to make this world more PEACEFUL. we already have enough stress in real life, so we better make our life better by supporting each other rather than fighting. No one has control over ones complexion or country of birth. No one can choose its parents and every child thinks that his parents are the best in the world. I think people around here are acting like small kids saying my father(country) is the best , my father(country) is the best....
We are mature people and should have respect for each other.
I'm with you there my friend! |
2 approvals today so far. And I won't mention who, not to be accused of being racist.
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I just talked to my attorney and he told he my case probably WILL NOT be adjucated before December/08. In this moment I lost all the hope I had. Now need to think what do I want to do next.
So....July/07 filers.....let's say Goodbye to our Green Cards in 2008. I literally feel like crying right now...Over 6 years of waiting and now...more waiting.
F**** this whole system (sorry).
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Dobra, do yourself a favor - fire your attorney...
1st. Even if they exhausted all EB3 now, we have 1 more quarter. The law prohibits using more than 27% of total visa per quarter. So 27*3=81%. So for 4th quarter we are going to have 19%. So, beginning from July approvals will flow again (this what happened last year too - some lucky June filers got approved in July).
2nd. Since October new fiscal year starts and new visas will be available.
3rd. October will be already 1.5 years for us waiting and it will be time to nuke them with WOM.
So, don't worry :) - yet I see EB3 approvals. It means not all visas are exhausted. Also - there is no memo yet.
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dobraGC: You are in much better shape than a lot of other folks. You have an **approved** 140. Invoke AC-21 & move on. Professionally, what would a GC do that you cannot do with an AC-21?
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I just talked to my attorney and he told he my case probably WILL NOT be adjucated before December/08. In this moment I lost all the hope I had. Now need to think what do I want to do next.
So....July/07 filers.....let's say Goodbye to our Green Cards in 2008. I literally feel like crying right now...Over 6 years of waiting and now...more waiting.
F**** this whole system (sorry).
hey sweetie, chip up! this not the end of the world.. i think ur lawyer estimation is wrong.. he has no way of knowing tht! dont get upset abt this ! u r so much more than a piece of plastic..
take care
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dobraGC: You are in much better shape than a lot of other folks. You have an **approved** 140. Invoke AC-21 & move on. Professionally, what would a GC do that you cannot do with an AC-21?
With a GC you don't have to transfer visa.
With a GC you don't have to work.
With a GC you can easily quit a job if you figure out it's not good.
With a GC you can easily find a new job.
Need I say more?
But I hope Dobra's attorney is full of sh*t.
In any case, cheer up, it's already THREE whole approvals today! (and guess for what country) |
BTW, just a thought.... We see plenty of India approvals maybe because visas are about to be exhausted, so USCIS decided to reach 7% cap for India, to know how many visas are left for ROW.
Or more correctly - exhaust India, then use up the rest for ROW - this way they will use up all the visas this year, by actually following the law.
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In any case, cheer up, it's already THREE whole approvals today! (and guess for what country)
while u are at it.. also take time to check their PD.. it waaaaaaaaaaaay before urs! |
Dobra,gdzie jestes ,gdzie pracujesz , nie zalamuj sie bedzie dobrze
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In any case, cheer up, it's already THREE whole approvals today! (and guess for what country)
while u are at it.. also take time to check their PD.. it waaaaaaaaaaaay before urs!
If cases were supposed to be processed by PD, there would be no meaning to per-country quota.
The US decided on a per-country quota, so they need to process cases by RD only. |
accidentally submitted twice.
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If cases were supposed to be processed by PD, there would be no meaning to per-country quota.
The US decided on a per-country quota, so they need to process cases by RD only.
if PD has no meaning in ur understating then why should RD??
USCIS will handle case who have earlier PD first for all the cases which have the same RD.. also ur RD is later than those appoved cases.. |
If cases were supposed to be processed by PD, there would be no meaning to per-country quota.
The US decided on a per-country quota, so they need to process cases by RD only.
if PD has no meaning in ur understating then why should RD??
USCIS will handle case who have earlier PD first for all the cases which have the same RD.. also ur RD is later than those appoved cases..
For same RD, it doesn't matter much if they process by PD. Don't confuse them with double-sorting. :)
In any case, it's all good, but still, the percentage of India cases amongst approvals, is much higher for some reason than the percentage of all India cases in all of Trackitt.
Something is fishy.
And 3 approvals today is very low in any case. |
pati, i think my logic correct :)).. but u get ur much sooner than any indian with ur PD..
as i said in other tread.. may b only indians update their proflies after appovals :)
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Hi DobraGC,
write to your state senator and ask for help. With your priority date you should have been approved already. How come people with PD and Receipt date behind yours have been approved? The system suppose to work FIFO with respect to PD and RD and the visa bulletin.
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Hi DobraGC,
write to your state senator and ask for help. With your priority date you should have been approved already. How come people with PD and Receipt date behind yours have been approved? The system suppose to work FIFO with respect to PD and RD and the visa bulletin.
lucky, it also depends on the complexity of the case... not all case are equal..
dobra, do u believe ur case not being looked at? did u try to call USCIS abt it.. |
You are right; nevertheless, I do not think that USCIS is following FIFO.
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Hi all,
thanks for the support. My case has not been looked into yet at all. It's a pretty simple case: same employer since always, I-140 approved, NC cleared, all checks cleared, ROW country with low amount of applicants. No LUDS since fingerprints...
I did contact my senator but after reading some horror RFE stories I decided not to follow through. Sometimes I think though that getting an RFE would be better than nothing, but it also means more dealings with my attorney who I simply would rather never have to deal with.
And yes, I could invoke AC21, but there are risks associated with it too...I totally agree with patiphone that there is no comparison between having GC in my hand and invoking AC21....
This is just a bunch of s*** what us - educated, productive, ambitious people put ourselves through.
Anyways, thanks everybody for the positive feedback.
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To zuzia: czesc i dzieki za wsparcie. Mieszkam w WI i czekam na zk juz okolo 6 lat......mam juz tego serdecznie dosyc. Dzieki raz jeszcze!
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is there a way to send private messages here?
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You can leave comments for someone but they will be visible for everybody. I don't think you can leave private messages.
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My case has not been looked into yet at all. It's a pretty simple case: same employer since always, I-140 approved, NC cleared, all checks cleared, ROW country with low amount of applicants. No LUDS since fingerprints...
My story is almost the same. The same employer, I-140 approved, ROW, NO LUD since fingerprinting.
Still waiting. Hopefully they will find soon that missed shelf with our applications. |
approval number today grew to 8! One even from China. Still no ROW.
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is there a way to send private messages here?
hey pati, who caught ur eye LOL LOL |
is there a way to send private messages here?
hey pati, who caught ur eye LOL LOL
Buzz... I bet 100 vs 1 that Patiphone is a woman... I feel it... |
bestia! me too!! she is way too polite even when she gets mad at other posters..
any updates on ur RFE ?
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so is there a way to send a private message here?
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so is there a way to send a private message here?
i am not aware of any..but i have seen ppl give their emails(made up just for this of course )..u could try tht :).. |
bestia! me too!! she is way too polite even when she gets mad at other posters..
any updates on ur RFE ?
also - complains too much, very hard to convince in something giving logical explanation.. - ah, women, women.
nah, nothing on rfe - nada. Called yesterday, spoke to Laurie - as usual. |
well too bad there are no private messages here. Should be part of every forum that respects itself.
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