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Topic: very few approvals today
pati - i used to talk to some ppl from here on immigration chat but noone goes there anymore....i had some pretty nice conversations with zma73 out there :)
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I don't know immigration chat. :(
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ah nevermind. Too lazy to create another account.
I'll wait till there are private messages here to send you one. :)
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I bet 100 vs 1 that Patiphone is a woman... I feel it...
My bet is 300:1 :) |
Patiphone, I agree with everything you say. You are right too many Indians are getting approved everyday and ROW has very few approvals.
So despite being an Indian myself, I've sent letters to all senators, USCIS chairman, Ombudsman, the President, First Lady, Hillary, Obama as well as McCain (You never know who'll become President) stating that you instead of me should be given a GC.
And what's more, after getting your GC, I won't be surprised if you start cribbing about other things like that Indian who is on a higher position than you, that Indian who owns a more expensive home than you etc. So I've suggested to them that Per Country limit should stay not just for GC but also for EVERYTHING in the US.
And please don't worry about us Indians. We are very much used to quota system back home and will continue waiting for our green cards. As someone rightly pointed out, we are pretty patient :)
Regards,
Indian - priority date March 2002 - Prepared to wait another 10 years.
P.S: Please don't forget to send me a Thank-You note after you get your GC.
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Are you all male male chauvinists? Could it be?
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Are you all male male chauvinists? Could it be?
Better a chauvinist than a racist, I say. :) |
Better a chauvinist than a racist, I say. :)
Gosh, no... Imagine Patiphone will start complaining that now only men are getting approved.... |
Are you all male male chauvinists? Could it be?
Better a chauvinist than a racist, I say. :)
Same cr*p. Except these people actually show their chauvinism. And then accuse other people of being racist, just because they support a policy of the US, regarding immigration, that allows at least some ROWs to sneak in past the vast amount of India cases.
About your previous message - No, I'm actually all for equal rights to all US permanent residents. Even to all US non-permanent residents. But just like some jobs are not allowed to sponsor a GC, there are limits to country GC quota. US immigration policy that has nothing to do with race, and everything with equal opportunity, country based. Different people's circumstances are different, and country of origin, regarding immigration is one of those different things.
Is the US racist against you? If so, I would not even bother to move to such a place. |
Shouldn't the name have been patniphone instead?
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About your previous message - No, I'm actually all for equal rights to all US permanent residents. Even to all US non-permanent residents. But just like some jobs are not allowed to sponsor a GC, there are limits to country GC quota. US immigration policy that has nothing to do with race, and everything with equal opportunity, country based. Different people's circumstances are different, and country of origin, regarding immigration is one of those different things.
Is the US racist against you? If so, I would not even bother to move to such a place.[/Q]
You show your complete ignorance about immigration matters in this post. Which jobs are not allowed to sponsor GC ? Even religious workers such as Rabbi's can get GCs (they have a seperate category though).
And if you are for equal rights for everyone, why are you cribbing about Indians in every post ? And how do you equate Employment based green card with circumstances of birth ? Employment green card prerogative lies with the Employer. If the company has 10 jobs available and if all the qualified persons they get are Indians, should the company reject them and hire someone from another country just for the sake of 'Diversity' ?
I think you ought to do your homework before you start posting such senseless messages. And my racist comment was directed to you since you called everyone chauvinist.
And by the way, Did you read the Headlines ? Trackitt website was started by an Indian to help everyone regardless of nationality, race or religion. But since you hate Indians so much, I guess you'll not be seen again. So now practice what you preach and disappear.
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I have nothing against Indians.
You are stupid if you think I do. I just worry about my case, seeing that all the approvals are Indians.
And people here made sexist jokes. That shows they are chauvinists.
And yes, not EVERY job can get you a labor certificate.
And again, you didn't answer - Is the US racist against Indians? And if so, why do you want to live here?
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I just worry about my case, seeing that all the approvals are Indians.
Try using India as your country of chargeability :) |
And again, you didn't answer - Is the US racist against Indians? And if so, why do you want to live here?
Where did I state that ? US is very good to India. Indian companies make millions of dollars every month on outsourcing. We are here in the US in the millions. The CEO of PepsiCo is an Indian. If you google, you'll find a list of Indians who hold top positions in the US. Bill Gates himself pleads to congress every year to increase H1B Caps just because he wants more Indians in Microsoft even though Microsoft already employs thousands of Indians.
So my question to you is, Even though you hate Indians so much, why do you want to stay in the US ? Unfortunately you'll meet many of my countrymen every where you go in the US. Your boss maybe Indian, the 7-11 Gas station where you fill gas will most probably be owned by an Indian, the hotel or motel where you stay during a long trip will most probably be owned by an Indian and so on. With your paranoia about everything Indian, you'll have a hard time handling the India-phobia.
So why do you still want a GC ? |
I have nothing against Indians.
You are stupid if you think I do. I just worry about my case, seeing that all the approvals are Indians.
And people here made sexist jokes. That shows they are chauvinists.
And yes, not EVERY job can get you a labor certificate.
And again, you didn't answer - Is the US racist against Indians? And if so, why do you want to live here?
from Israel and still no GC???? what a pity :-)
thought US strongly supports Israel and its people because all you people from Israel are Jews. hey nothing against Israelis but just surprised to see you waiting for a long time and taking out all your emotions on us !
oops..just realized patiphone maatherchooth has not subscribed to this thread....anyway, I don't wanna waste my time adding these comments again to his profile ! |
And people here made sexist jokes. That shows they are chauvinists.
Ow... so anybody making a sexist joke is a chauvinist... Aw... woman's logic... how charming... :) |
dobraGC: You are in much better shape than a lot of other folks. You have an **approved** 140. Invoke AC-21 & move on. Professionally, what would a GC do that you cannot do with an AC-21?
With a GC you don't have to transfer visa.
blah..blah...
Jaywalking is risky. Getting out of the house is risky, hey even sitting at home could be risky. Now, with an approved 140 & a 485 pending for more than 180 days, what are the risks in invoking AC-21? Logic is probably not your forte so it is futile carrying on an argument with you :) But we have to admit that you are good at whining. |
To Patiphone:
When you were told by Tikal "...Shouldn't the name have been patniphone instead?..." Patni I think means Momzer - I thought you should know :)
Also the guys are right, there might be way more approvals from India but they are really retrogressed!
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Hmmm.. now that is true ... the number of approvals seem to be skewed towards males.
Well, guess there is never going to be any equality anywhere - until the humans are gone and the robots take over.
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By the way brothers - What's the best way to support this new pending bill to eliminate country quotas? We should all be spending our energy there instead of trying to put logic into some s**** head.
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And again, you didn't answer - Is the US racist against Indians? And if so, why do you want to live here?
Where did I state that ? US is very good to India. Indian companies make millions of dollars every month on outsourcing. We are here in the US in the millions. The CEO of PepsiCo is an Indian. If you google, you'll find a list of Indians who hold top positions in the US. Bill Gates himself pleads to congress every year to increase H1B Caps just because he wants more Indians in Microsoft even though Microsoft already employs thousands of Indians.
So my question to you is, Even though you hate Indians so much, why do you want to stay in the US ? Unfortunately you'll meet many of my countrymen every where you go in the US. Your boss maybe Indian, the 7-11 Gas station where you fill gas will most probably be owned by an Indian, the hotel or motel where you stay during a long trip will most probably be owned by an Indian and so on. With your paranoia about everything Indian, you'll have a hard time handling the India-phobia.
So why do you still want a GC ?
Well, the US that is NOT racist against Indians, decided on the Per-country quota. Why are you complaining that supporting it is "racist"? That makes the US racist against Indian people.
And I said I have NOTHING AGAINST INDIANS and I DON'T HATE INDIANS but you idiot keep repeating that. |
And people here made sexist jokes. That shows they are chauvinists.
Ow... so anybody making a sexist joke is a chauvinist... Aw... woman's logic... how charming... :)
I think "jokes" was not the right word. There was nothing funny about it. Just pure prejudice towards women. |
The name calling doesn't end.
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If you don't hate Indians, why are you complaining about Indians getting approvals ? In every other thread apart from this, you are stating the same. And in fact you started a count of how many Indians got approved against how many ROW got approved.
Trackitt itself represents just 1% of cases. So this approval rate is not the complete picture. And for what you know, maybe many ROW's are not reporting their approvals.
Instead of focussing on this whole retrogression which affects everyone regardless of Nationality, you are going on and on about the same senseless point. 7% is the max country approval limit. Get this in your head, if you have any that is.
Last post on this topic from me. You can go about your rambling's.
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If you don't hate Indians, why are you complaining about Indians getting approvals ? In every other thread apart from this, you are stating the same. And in fact you started a count of how many Indians got approved against how many ROW got approved.
Trackitt itself represents just 1% of cases. So this approval rate is not the complete picture. And for what you know, maybe many ROW's are not reporting their approvals.
Instead of focussing on this whole retrogression which affects everyone regardless of Nationality, you are going on and on about the same senseless point. 7% is the max country approval limit. Get this in your head, if you have any that is.
Last post on this topic from me. You can go about your rambling's.
If you don't understand how I can love Indians and yet be concerned that only Indians are approved lately, and almost none ROW, then YOU are the one with no brain. |
...how I can love Indians...
Ow... how sweet... - take it easy, Patiphone, we are all in the same boat... (even Indians...)..
Try to think positive... - you are lucky that you have filed your I-485 and now you are covered by AC21. In my time (late 90-ies, early 20-ies) - we had no PERM and labor certifications were taking 3-4 years - and it was regardless of country/category. During that time we couldn't change job, couldn't move, didn't have EAD. If company was sold/merged/moved - we had to restart everything again... So you are in a very good shape... This is how it is... You have to deal with it, live with it, accept it... - Maybe a person really has to go through some real hardships (not this pathetic: "oh my god, i'm not approved yet) to value what he/she has... |
PEACE FOLKS ....
Patiphone (and many others) only has issues with Indians that the in EB2 AND Priority < then hers. She loves all other Indians EB3, EB1, blue collar, those not in the US. Ashwarya Rai (Miss Universe or Miss World), Dalip Singh (WWE Great Khali), maybe Indian food, etc. And also she has issues with people who offended her.
Hey that's understandable right? Other get to step in front of the queue. 10 years from now if the situation changes are all Romanians decide to apply to come the US. Then she would suddenly dislike Romanian, comprende?
You folks who are misreading her post need to get some help and have someone more objective read the post b4 applying.
Anyways whatever anyone say does not bother me and should not bother anyone ... everyone her is virtual ... we probably NEVER see other in real life. No trackiit user ID's are verified ... nobody knows for sure if so and so if Russian, etc, etc... an Indian could a Pakistani, etc, etc.
Thank you - well said (pat myself in the back) --- God Bless
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By the way, if you look at the 2007 stats provided by USCIS, for Employment preference, 27,419 of 154,458 immigrant visas and AOSs issued, are for India. That's actually 17.75%. Much more than 7%....and this number is much more relevant to this forum, as it is employment based.
And it has nothing to do with the fact that lately there's almost no approvals for ROWs. And in addition to the general low approvals numbers this week, gets me worried and concerned.
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Yes - you're correct and I am with you. As unfair as it is ... so USCIS is ROW ('racist') =:)
Oh well it is what it is ... I will sit back and patiently wait ... approval will eventually come even if is after tons of EB2 India ... are approved first.
Lakers Future 2008 NBA champs !!! GO Lakers ...
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... 27,419 of 154,458 immigrant visas and AOSs issued, are for India. That's actually 17.75%. Much more than 7%......
BTW, Guys... she is right... (I can't believe I'm saying that):
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY07AnnualReportTableV.pdf
This could only happen if USCIS claimed that there were no demand from ROW (but we know it's not true)... |
... 27,419 of 154,458 immigrant visas and AOSs issued, are for India. That's actually 17.75%. Much more than 7%......
BTW, Guys... she is right... (I can't believe I'm saying that):
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY07AnnualReportTableV.pdf
This could only happen if USCIS claimed that there were no demand from ROW (but we know it's not true)...
There is no country quota on captured visas (not used in other categories) .most of them got approved in june,july 2007 |
hmmm, "practice what you preach" is tough one indeed:) if indians shouldn't argue againt US rules on per-country-cap, one shouldn't complain about USCIS decision to approve cases in whatever goddamn order they please either. btw, if USCIS indeed is violating 7% why not challenge them for violation of rules?
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It sounds like a lot of people are not yet ready to become American. In America, women are equal.
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....In America, women are equal.
bha-ha-ha-ha :) of course nobody denies that women are equal :) |
hmmm, "practice what you preach" is tough one indeed:) if indians shouldn't argue againt US rules on per-country-cap, one shouldn't complain about USCIS decision to approve cases in whatever goddamn order they please either. btw, if USCIS indeed is violating 7% why not challenge them for violation of rules?
you made good point!! |
Every quarter, unused visas flow from EB1->EB2->EB3 and when they do the "per-country" limit is not considered. That is the law [Section 202(a)(5)]. That is why Indians get more than 7% approvals.
Note: only EB3 ROW is retrogressed. EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW are not. India (and China) EB2 use the unused visas from ROW(EB1 and EB2).
From the April Visa Bulletin from Dept of State.
D. INDIA EMPLOYMENT SECOND PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY
Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act provides that if total demand will be insufficient to use all available numbers in a particular Employment preference category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual “per-country” limit. It has been determined that based on the current level of demand being received, primarily by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices, there would be otherwise unused numbers in the Employment Second preference category. As a result, numbers have once again become available to the India Employment Second preference category. The rate of number use in the Employment Second preference category will continue to be monitored, and it may be necessary to make adjustments should the level of demand increase substantially.
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... one shouldn't complain about USCIS decision to approve cases in whatever goddamn order they please either. ...
immipassion, believe me, it is in your best interests that USCIS will be following the rules and laws. For 12 years visas were just wasted - it didn't matter if countries had or didn't have caps - visas were wasted anyway. What are you gonna say if next year India will receive 1% of approvals? Won't you go on rally and complain to get at least this 7%? Won't you complain that USCIS doesn't follow the rules? "practice what you preach" indeed :) |
And meanwhile, there's only ONE approval today! WHAT THE HELL?
(of course it's 100% India :)
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I actually suck at soccer... And I never had a good manager in Brazil so maybe you have a point there.
But I never said that Brazil/Equador/Argentina are better... all I said is that the fact that Indians have a bigger pool to get people from makes getting better people there easier than in other places.
I think India also has a much higher number of college graduates in IT than Brazil does... I am not comparing countries.
Basically, that is the point in question here: No one can compare countries because unless you are from Denmark (the girls are super hot there and I think its considered the best country in the world) it makes no sense to compare because all countries have good and bad things (some more good, some more bad).
Everyone here should look at the facts without taking it personally... When you say Brazil is good at soccer, the reason is because there are lots of kids living in the street and all they do is play soccer the whole day. So of course, a lot of them will become good (if they ever live long enough to become adults, or don't go to jail).
Therefore I don't think its racist to assume every Brazilian plays soccer well. Its a fact because a lot of them do, and its the national sport (also volleyball, jiujitsu and fighting in general amongst other things). All I am saying is for the people in this forum to chill and stop crying "racism" all the time, it already sucks having to listen to Al Shapner doing it all the time...
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MoneyMarket, YOU are definitely a racist and a sexist.
The US definitely does not need people like you.
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MoneyMarket, YOU are definitely a racist and a sexist.
The US definitely does not need people like you.
Patiphone, you can start another feminazi.. oops...^H^H^H^H^H^H feminist movement right at USCIS.. |
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However, I have nothing against Indians... as long as they keep muslim Pakistan in check ;)
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But, my point was that the reason it is easier for Indians to come is because US is a close ally with India to keep Nuclear-Pakistan in check.
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SnakeEyes: You better keep quite rather than posting hate messages. If someone doesn't want to use bad language that doesn't mean you have all the rights in the world to disgrace any nation or religion. For your information there are more Muslims in India than Pakistan...... |
...unless you are from Denmark (the girls are super hot there and I think its considered the best country in the world)...
SnakeEyes: Brazil has more than its fair share of garotas quentes :) |
I agree 100% with Peace. SnakeEyes, on one hand you try to show that you are not a racist and on the other hand you make comments that seem otherwise. This forum is for better discussions than that. Relax
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http://www.imminav.com/stat/
If you look at this page and use the LUD history feature on the page for todays date, seems like there has been activity but no approvals. Maybe more people approved today who are not on trackitt or immigration .com Could also be that they are conducting another sweep to get to the next batch and all the activity is related to "sweep hits".
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nobody cares there's only 2 approvals today? :(
(100% India! :)
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and do they even remember those 2 months, long ago, of July and August 2007, in which they received lots of applications? (mostly became non-current after that, so shouldn't bother them).
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and do they even remember those 2 months, long ago, of July and August 2007, in which they received lots of applications? (mostly became non-current after that, so shouldn't bother them).
The July & Aug '07 cases have been shipped to an asteroid. When the asteroid makes the next rendezvous, those applications will be picked up. Until then - ROW, ROW, ROW your boat .... |
.... ROW ROW ROW your boat ....
bha-ha-ha-ha... gosh, Tikal, I started laughing when there were people in my office... - didn't look good :) |
Tikal, I have been reading your posts lately and must say that you are outrageously *FUNNY* !!! (and of course knowledgeable about immigration issues). Your comments just made my day :) (I am one of those guys whose case is on that asteriod since I am an Aug 07 filer)!
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