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Topic: GC and military
Posted by Brasileira (221) 24 May 2008
Did any of you have the experience of joinng the military after getting the GC?
I was told that after 6 m you can get your citzenship and the army helps ou with it. You can aply after 6m.
Even the fees are redurced.
Anyone here has been through that?
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Posted by DoItLegally (326) 25 May 2008
From a law firm website:

"Applying for U.S. Citizenship During Time of War
Any immigrant who enlists with the United States Armed Forces can apply for expedited naturalization. Because the United States is in a time of war, an immigrant—documented or undocumented—who serves in active-duty status may apply for expedited naturalization through military service. Immigrants who enlist during a time of war can apply for naturalization after only one day of service and have the citizenship application fee waived.
In general, to apply for naturalization through military service, you must meet the other requirements for naturalization, including showing that you have "good moral character," pass the English literacy and civics test, and swear attachment to the principles of the U.S. constitution by taking the Oath of Allegiance.
Generally, a person who is subject to a final order of removal is not allowed to naturalize. However, this rule does not apply to immigrants who naturalize through military service.
To apply for naturalization through military service in a time of war, you must serve in active-duty status and honorably complete your term of service. If you do not honorably complete your term of service, you will lose your citizenship."
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 25 May 2008
thank you DoItLegally, , did anyone here in this forum do this?
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Posted by dreamercc (342) 25 May 2008
With a green card, you can only serve as a soldier, not as an officer. To get expedited naturalization immediately without a residence requirement, you have to be in active combat - and naturalization will be revoked if you are dishonorably discharged or leave the military under dishonorable conditions within the first few years. (Though the legality of this is dubious)

I think waiting five years is worth more than risking your life and getting 20K as a soldier. Once in the military, you can't quit, you have to serve for years..
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Posted by dreamercc (342) 25 May 2008
If you are that desperate to get citizenship fast, you can marry a US citizen working overseas for the US government or a US corporation. Then you can apply immediately with no residence requirement without risking your life in the battlefield..
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Posted by DoItLegally (326) 25 May 2008

If you are that desperate to get citizenship fast, you can marry a US citizen working overseas for the US government or a US corporation. Then you can apply immediately with no residence requirement without risking your life in the battlefield..



Yes. Except that marrying someone for citizenship is fraud.

Joining the military in order to get citizenship is not fraud. As long as you perform active duty and serve for 5 years.

I suggest you avoid fraud. Many people here compain about the imigration system because they encounter problems. Often those problems are encountered because they are using tactics or sponsors that are never straightforward.

Watch yourself. Stay legal. Do it right.
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Posted by dreamercc (342) 25 May 2008
I was merely being informative in a lighthearted way, I don't suggest fraud for anyone. For example the OP could have his/her spouse join the military, have the spouse get citizenship immediately, and then have the OP get citizenship immediately based on having a US spouse working for the US government overseas, without any fraud involved.

Speaking about fraud, the USCIS considers even divorcing for the sole purpose of securing immigration benefits to be fraud. Which is very awkward, as it seems to imply that any action, taken for the sole purpose of securing immigration benefits is fraud. By that token joining the military would also be fraud.

How can divorce lead to immigration benefits? I will leave it for you to figure out.
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 25 May 2008
I am married. I am joining the army and not for the citzenship, that is an added bonus, but i want to know about it. I read online, i wanted to see if anyone in the forum had been throu the process.
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 25 May 2008
also once i get my cotzenship i can go in as an officer
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Posted by dreamercc (342) 25 May 2008
you should check all the rules extremely carefully to make sure you are doing what you want and you arent stuck in something you don't want. can you really switch to an officer once you get citizenship? you may be able to get citizenship for your spouse too if you are serving abroad. Please update us if you join, I would like to know your experience.
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 26 May 2008
there are 3 people that did it. at the moment i am studying for the ASVAB and getting physically in shape, but will keep you posted.
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Posted by IrishSF (15) 27 May 2008
I don't think you need to have actual combat duty for the expedited citizenship. You do need FEDERAL duty though, so this precludes almost all time spent in any National Guard Unit.

Good luck my man, I'm thinking of signing up myself once I can.
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Posted by BulletinRider (42) 27 May 2008
Hi everyone.

I was looking for an answer to that question a few weeks ago, and came across this post on the USCIS web site: http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/MilitaryNatzFS052407.pdf. Hope this helps.
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Posted by ranajee (146) 27 May 2008
US Military is offering alot more than just citizenship because people are afraid to go to a "true war" and get yourself killed. If not killed you'll be half killed anyways. Check the forums and documentaries on people who came back after war. They lost their legs, arms and almost 90% have lost their minds. Its not just a physical war. Its more psychological.

On GC you can do pretty much the same as being a US citizen. Get a nice good job, be with your family and relax.

Choice is yours and best of luck.
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Posted by IrishSF (15) 27 May 2008
While I am not suggesting that military service is the only way to show support for one's community. It seems to me to be somewhat parsimonious in what you want to give to a country where you intend to live for the rest of your life (I am assuming this). Why should the GC only come with benefits and rights? What about responsibilities?
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Posted by tiredofjerks (231) 27 May 2008
some people consider getting married as risky as going to war, psychological sequels are devastating, no benefits, no vacations.etc
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Posted by ranajee (146) 27 May 2008
To join the army you don't even need the green card.
Fill the form G-845
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-845.pdf
Find a good recruiter and get yourself a US citizenship.

What you'll get:
US citizenship

What US will get:
Another soldier to send out for a fight (Kill or get killed)
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 29 May 2008
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Posted by luv4USA (673) 29 May 2008

To join the army you don't even need the green card.



I doubt that this is correct. My son spoke with a US Marines representative and was told that one must have a "green card" if you're not a US Citizen.
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Posted by DoItLegally (326) 29 May 2008


To join the army you don't even need the green card.



I doubt that this is correct. My son spoke with a US Marines representative and was told that one must have a "green card" if you're not a US Citizen.



The following is from the Army's website:

The basic qualifications for enlistment in the U.S. Army include:

• being from 17 to 34 years old
• be a U.S. citizen or resident alien, (must have the I-551)
• have a high school diploma or equivalent (such as a GED)
• be single with no children or married with 2 or less children
• pass the ASVAB test and
• pass the physical
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Posted by Trackbuzz (2077) 29 May 2008


• be single with no children or married with 2 or less children




Wht!! wht abt all those ppl who have kids out of wedlock? ... doesnt army read the news.. teenage pregnancy is at all time high!
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 30 May 2008
The age was extended, as for not having a GC i don't know about that, i went 6m ago to see a recruiter and they told me I had to wait to get my GC, there is nothing they can do, even if the I485 is pending.

Now i got it and went to see the recruiter again and now i can get in. They can help you get the citzenship but not your GC they say this over and over again in the discussion board, just look at my previous link.

I am saying by what the recruiter told me, it would have to have changed in the last 6 month.

I didn't know about the kids, i have a son and that never come up. i am studying for the ASVAB it is mostly High School stuff and i forgot most of it kkkk.
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 30 May 2008
i looked at military.com the age changed to 42 for the army and it says that you do need to be permanent resident (GC) or be a US citizen
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Posted by Brasileira (221) 10 Jul 2008
Did my Asvab, now working on the psysical. You can apply for cittzenship after serving one day.
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Posted by Trackbuzz (2077) 10 Jul 2008
congrats buddy :)
i am really happy for u...
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Posted by TheGreenGoblin (2531) 10 Jul 2008

I was told that after 6 m you can get your citzenship and the army helps ou with it.



Yeah, you can if you get back alive after all. Go ahead and try. Post your exp. after that, please.
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