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Topic: Informative USCIS report
Posted by fivestar (20) 04 Jul 2008
This Ombudsman report gives detailed info about 2007 surge with stats, internal workings/procedures and photos (you may check status of your application in fig 12 ;-))

Note: large .pdf file

http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/news/2008,0703-ombudsman.pdf
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Posted by AG2008 (116) 04 Jul 2008
Hope one day they will move to an electronic system...

Figure 12 is shocking...no wonder some files are never found!
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Posted by gettinggc (1093) 04 Jul 2008
Scary.....Very Scary.

This govt. is spending biilions of dollars to explore space and other planets. And look at this File based Immigration System.
The local DMV office scans the documents that we submit. Come on USCIS !

S..
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Posted by SuperCanuck (86) 05 Jul 2008
Very depressing and very scary. They say that one of the purposes of the increased fees was to reduce waiting times for I-485 applications from 6 months to 4 months. Yeah right.............

Your lucky if it's a year. Unless of course you are one of the lucky ones who get adjudicated in 3 months for some reason
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Posted by SuperCanuck (86) 05 Jul 2008
Looking at Figure 12, I think I see my I-485 application lying on the floor.
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Posted by ocotilloaz (34) 05 Jul 2008
I was looking thru the case problems mentioned, and there is an applicant who is waiting for 4 years to get a replacement green card. This guy re-applied 4 times (since early 2005) per the suggestions by USCIS customer service, and yet to receive the replacement card.

I am sure this guy is one of the hundreds of such victims and we get to know about his case only because he sent a formal complaint to the ombudsman. Just imagine and compare, a citizen lose drivers license and it takes 4 years and 4 re-applications to get a replacement license.
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Posted by SuperCanuck (86) 05 Jul 2008
Very good point, ocotilloaz. However, the USCIS plays by their own rules. There are many millions of people with drivers licenses in the U.S. The immigration community is much smaller and are not citizens to boot. We are expendanble.
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Posted by nindi (140) 05 Jul 2008
wow ???????
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Posted by echoes (216) 05 Jul 2008
The point is they do not care about us. I mean with all of these complaint nothing has changed . They just talk and talk.
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Posted by OnlyneedI140 (380) 05 Jul 2008
Hello guys
The figure# 12 is kind of scary. I'm hoping those files in their (seems like in a big warehouse) been all ready scanned in their computer system and they go by the computer and not by the file they sent to the warehouse. I thought they scanned every page in the individual file & then they sent to the some other places like were showing in the big warehouse in the figure 12. If something is missing they go back and get the specific file and do their work. I don't think we have to much wory about that. may be I am wrong, and correct me. we always have to thing positive and get to our destination.

hope you all the best and God bless everybody and help everybody to get to their destination

Pritpal
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Posted by may2003 (746) 05 Jul 2008
If the files are scanned, there was no need to transfer cases from one service center to another. In that case any SC would have picked up the next case and processed it or sent an RFE, and closed the case. However, we all know that this is not the case. They do enter the data in computers, but so far they are carrying out manual handling of the files. That is the reason, why one family member gets the visa, where as another is stuck in the queue. Let us hope that the errors in file handling are minimal.
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Posted by OnlyneedI140 (380) 05 Jul 2008
hello friend am36

you are right. but uscis are screwing up everyone. they are not doing their work in a proper way. I'm just praying and hoping that everybody get their GC.

good luck to all
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Posted by byerabati (27) 05 Jul 2008
By seeing fig 12,I think it's time to outsource USCIS to some company..
Any company out there to process it??
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Posted by DesiVidesi (389) 05 Jul 2008
Page 32 (46 of 112):- "(the service centers have enormous workloads – the California Service Center has approximately 1.5 million files at its facility at any given time)"

And my case was recently transferred to this center from TSC.

GOD !!!!!
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Posted by krustycat (1210) 06 Jul 2008
Yay!!
I saw my lost applications in the fig. #12!!!
Now I'll get travel document! Hooray!!!
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Posted by Nabeel1 (78) 06 Jul 2008
Damn idiots at USCIS !! I mean, in this day and age they have 55 million files flying around, they spend $ 13 million moving files here and there ? They should enter all the info into the computer. Figure 12 is a real depressing picture for anyone dealing with USCIS.
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Posted by kermit (2125) 07 Jul 2008
my application has definitely eaten by a cow or a pig. my fears are now justified by fig 12
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Posted by gckikhojmei (40) 07 Jul 2008
frnds m not able to open this file. why is that.
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Posted by Trackbuzz (2077) 07 Jul 2008


frnds m not able to open this file. why is that.



Do you have adobe to open pdf files...if not, download it from: It should be free..

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html




they r scared of Y2K! LMAO!
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Posted by workoutexcite (12) 07 Jul 2008
Here is the scary gif : http://i25.tinypic.com/ayrg6.gif
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Posted by deep41305 (206) 07 Jul 2008
I wish the USCIS works on processing cases than making these presentations what are of no use and would be lying in the same place as Fig 12...LOL
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Posted by ginetto (395) 07 Jul 2008
There is another report from 2005:

http://www.dhs.gov/xoig/assets/mgmtrpts/OIG_05-41_Sep05.pdf

Look at figure 3 and compare it with figure 12 on this thread.

Looks like they are filling up the holes.
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Posted by Trackbuzz (2077) 07 Jul 2008

There is another report from 2005:

http://www.dhs.gov/xoig/assets/mgmtrpts/OIG_05-41_Sep05.pdf

Look at figure 3 and compare it with figure 12 on this thread.

Looks like they are filling up the holes.





fig 2, flooding anyone ???
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Posted by krustycat (1210) 07 Jul 2008
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Posted by Bhole (348) 07 Jul 2008
This one is scary too krustycat. I am surprised that one day my case might have been stacked somewhere and I was following up everyday...Amazing!!
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Posted by krustycat (1210) 07 Jul 2008

The National Records Center ("NRC") opened in November 1999 and is part of USCIS and the National Archives. NRC houses and manages some 20 million immigration files, considered "inactive", in a centralized location in the heart of middle America. The facility is literally built within a bomb-protected limestome cave, 65 feet underground, and utilizes air-quality and temperature-maintenance technology to preserve these files in original conditions, some dating back to 1920s.

NRC comprises a quarter million square feet spread over four extremely large "stack rooms", and stores some 4000 miles of files over 103 miles of shelves. The filing method is not alphabetical. Files are "bar-coded", and "matched" to a particular shelf in the stack rooms.



IO: how may I help you today?
applicant: I'd like to know about my application. It seems my file got lost.
IO: I'm sorry, sir... let me try to find it...
(silence... clicking....)
IO: I've found your file, sir.
applicant: Oh, really?
IO: Yes, sir. It's in a cave, we're now waiting for clearance. The caveman who has the file has to release it. Then, the caveman in command would want to get the file but he usually is busy trying to hide and mix up more files in order to confuse the rest of the cavemen and gain control over them. Summer just started and all cavemen will leave the cave soon.
Just wait another 60 days and we'll see. It's probably we'll be able to catch your file after October when all the cavemen return. They could be kind of aggressive when bothered.
Is there anything else that I can do for you? Hellooooo? Hellooooooooo? Sir????
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Posted by rose1 (22) 07 Jul 2008


The National Records Center ("NRC") opened in November 1999 and is part of USCIS and the National Archives. NRC houses and manages some 20 million immigration files, considered "inactive", in a centralized location in the heart of middle America. The facility is literally built within a bomb-protected limestome cave, 65 feet underground, and utilizes air-quality and temperature-maintenance technology to preserve these files in original conditions, some dating back to 1920s.

NRC comprises a quarter million square feet spread over four extremely large "stack rooms", and stores some 4000 miles of files over 103 miles of shelves. The filing method is not alphabetical. Files are "bar-coded", and "matched" to a particular shelf in the stack rooms.



IO: how may I help you today?
applicant: I'd like to know about my application. It seems my file got lost.
IO: I'm sorry, sir... let me try to find it...
(silence... clicking....)
IO: I've found your file, sir.
applicant: Oh, really?
IO: Yes, sir. It's in a cave, we're now waiting for clearance. The caveman who has the file has to release it. Then, the caveman in command would want to get the file but he usually is busy trying to hide and mix up more files in order to confuse the rest of the cavemen and gain control over them. Summer just started and all cavemen will leave the cave soon.
Just wait another 60 days and we'll see. It's probably we'll be able to catch your file after October when all the cavemen return. They could be kind of aggressive when bothered.
Is there anything else that I can do for you? Hellooooo? Hellooooooooo? Sir????



LOL!!!!
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Posted by OnlyneedI140 (380) 07 Jul 2008
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The National Records Center ("NRC") opened in November 1999 and is part of USCIS and the National Archives. NRC houses and manages some 20 million immigration files, considered "inactive", in a centralized location in the heart of middle America. The facility is literally built within a bomb-protected limestome cave, 65 feet underground, and utilizes air-quality and temperature-maintenance technology to preserve these files in original conditions, some dating back to 1920s.

NRC comprises a quarter million square feet spread over four extremely large "stack rooms", and stores some 4000 miles of files over 103 miles of shelves. The filing method is not alphabetical. Files are "bar-coded", and "matched" to a particular shelf in the stack rooms.

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IO: how may I help you today?
applicant: I'd like to know about my application. It seems my file got lost.
IO: I'm sorry, sir... let me try to find it...
(silence... clicking....)
IO: I've found your file, sir.
applicant: Oh, really?
IO: Yes, sir. It's in a cave, we're now waiting for clearance. The caveman who has the file has to release it. Then, the caveman in command would want to get the file but he usually is busy trying to hide and mix up more files in order to confuse the rest of the cavemen and gain control over them. Summer just started and all cavemen will leave the cave soon.
Just wait another 60 days and we'll see. It's probably we'll be able to catch your file after October when all the cavemen return. They could be kind of aggressive when bothered.
Is there anything else that I can do for you? Hellooooo? Hellooooooooo? Sir????
good one lol
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