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Topic: Immigration to Canada
Posted by echoes (216) 27 Jul 2008
Is it the time to switch gears to Canada. According what I got to know, obtaining Canadian PR is easy for skilled workers. I started looking for job overthere. I have few questions though
1- Is US immigration become a drean diffiult to come true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2- is it wise to spend our life waiting and going through this mess h1,I-140,I-485,interviews ,AOS, paying money to attorney,calling congressman,............... while the same quality of life country is opening its arms for immgrants !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3-does US not really want new immirants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any feed back!!!!!!!!1
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Posted by DoItLegally (326) 27 Jul 2008
It's a personal decision.

Either you have the patience to wait or you don't.

That's all.

You are current. And likely not that far off approval.
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Posted by Jerry2121 (96) 27 Jul 2008
I'm thinking the same. Since the US immigration process is highly DELAYED. Mine has been been in process since 3years. If at the end of the year nothing happens. I may start the canada immigration process while I'm waiting on the U.S. Its a matter of choice anyway. Do you know how long it takes to Immigrate to Canada for someone residing in USA? Good luck! Please let me know please.
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Posted by russianninja (768) 27 Jul 2008
You of course are not going anywhere, so why ask pointless questions?
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Posted by littlegreenman (157) 27 Jul 2008

Do you know how long it takes to Immigrate to Canada for someone residing in USA?



Yes, it takes around 2 years unless you want to freeze your a** off in Alberta or some place like that.
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Posted by canusamex (230) 27 Jul 2008
It is not the same quality of life. If you decide to go to a city, such as Calgary, I'm not even talking Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver. The average home price is around $300,000 ($CND and $US are even as of now). The gross income per capita is less than the US. You do the math.

In Houston, a city kind of comparable to Calgary, you can get a house (2000 ft2) in a nice neighborhood for $140,000 an equivalent home in Calgary starts at $250,000.

If you are willing to live in an apartment or to get into a 40 year mortgage, live in sub 0 degree celcius temperature for 8 months out of 12 in a year. Then Canada is the place for you.

Ask the Canadians living here, to answer honestly (pride aside) where they would rather live the rest of their lives?

Yes, to some degree Canada is a very nice place to live, but it does not compare to the opportunities the USA gives!
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Posted by echoes (216) 27 Jul 2008
Iam asking very serious questions!! I have a lot of opportunities in Canada! I have been in US for 10 years so it is very difficult decision . It is always a great idea to look for options
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Posted by green4cdn (131) 27 Jul 2008

If you are willing to live in an apartment or to get into a 40 year mortgage, live in sub 0 degree celcius temperature for 8 months out of 12 in a year. Then Canada is the place for you.

Ask the Canadians living here, to answer honestly (pride aside) where they would rather live the rest of their lives?



comments like yours are hilarious to Canadians and shows the ignorance that everywhere in Canada it is winter year round. there are lots of different climates in Canada. yes, the cost of living may be higher but you have to remember the value of health care and the higher level of the education system. even though I am here in the US waiting to get my gc to stay with my company, i will never give up my Canadian citizenship.
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Posted by GGKK (66) 27 Jul 2008
You can apply as a skilled worker to Canada if your profession is on the list of professions in demand. The new list will be published in September. The process will take about 2 years through Buffalo, NY. If your profession is not on the list, don't waste your money and time - you will be rejected. You can also apply through PNP if you have a job lined up. Easier process (if you have a job offer that is), and will take about the same time. All the information you need regarding PNP and Skilled Workers is on CIC web site. Take the test and see if you get 67 points. Good luck.
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Posted by simplysay (118) 27 Jul 2008
Think twice before you decide to apply for Canada! Especially for the ones who already started US immigrations and has a job/life here, and already in line, slow as it is, it is moving. Yes, it is painful to wait here, but is it going to be more costly to move to another country, and then come back on TN many years later? Together then the journey would take 10+ years. And who knows if there is still TN visa available at that time, and who knows if US EB immigration doors are still open many years later?

You cannot compare the two countries. Population is ten times different, Yes, Canada has a larger land than US, but 90% of its population live on the border of US. What does that tell you? Yes, British Columbia has a charming climate with spring all year-around, but how about the rest 90% of the country? I saw one statistic saying for one doctor move from US to Canada, there are 10 Canadian doctors move to US! Are these Canadian doctors dumb to move to US? Obviously they are smart. Despite their utmost love and pride for their country, tens thousands of Canadians try to immigrate to US. Yes, they will say they will never give up their Canadian citizenship. But Canadian accepts dual citizenship, and one can apply and get US citizenship and still keep his Canadian citizenship. What if they have to surrender their Canadian citizenship in order to get US citizenship? I bet thousands will change their mind about keeping their Canadian citizenship!
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Posted by immigrant1234 (1) 27 Jul 2008
For people with canadian citizenship working in the US on H1, do they need get a visa appointment in Montreal or Canada to get multiple entry or can they just go to the border to get multiple entry?.
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Posted by echoes (216) 27 Jul 2008
I really do not know !! anybody have an answer!
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Posted by metr5550 (612) 27 Jul 2008
Not a good idea for these reasons:
- need to repeat tests to work on same profession
- Bussiness field there is socialized, mean less money, just a government employee
- Too late to restart.

Just hang in there, GC is ony one less headache, will not change life dramatically as we think.
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Posted by SuperCanuck (86) 27 Jul 2008
immigrant1234


You can just go to the border where they will stamp your passport with the H1B stamp and staple in a I-94 card. The I-94 is almost always multiple entry. I have done this twice and it is no problem.
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Posted by green4cdn (131) 27 Jul 2008
immigrant 1234 - i'm an L1A and got a multiple entry I-94 at toronto pearson airport and have no problem when coming back and forth from canada. one time i entered the USA from another country and the IO did not accept my multiple so had me fill out another I-94 for single entry (but he let me keep my multiple).
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Posted by littlegreenman (157) 27 Jul 2008
greenyway,

By the time you'll be half way to getting your Canadian PR your I485 will be approved. You are EB2 ROW so quit bitching and be patient, you will get yours soon. Do you think the US govt. cares that you're pissed off and threatening to move to Canada?
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Posted by tfox2007 (33) 27 Jul 2008
"For people with canadian citizenship working in the US on H1, do they need get a visa appointment in Montreal or Canada to get multiple entry or can they just go to the border to get multiple entry?."


Canadian citizens do need any visa to come to USA. I am a Canadian Citizen holding H1B status in USA. I never needed any visa to come back to USA from any country.
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Posted by tfox2007 (33) 27 Jul 2008
"For people with canadian citizenship working in the US on H1, do they need get a visa appointment in Montreal or Canada to get multiple entry or can they just go to the border to get multiple entry?."


Canadian citizens do need any visa to come to USA. I am a Canadian Citizen holding H1B status in USA. I never needed any visa to come back to USA from any country.

I meant do NOT need any visa to come to USA.
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Posted by DoItLegally (326) 27 Jul 2008
There is no clear cut answer regarding which is better. Better is in the eye of the beholder. I am Canadian and live in the US. I have my GC. What keeps me here? Weather. You can by a house in Houston for less than you can in Calgary but you can by a house in Toronto for far less than you can in California or New York so there is no blanket answer. It's all down to which apple you are comparing with which apple.

I'm here because I really hate Canadian winters. But there are many wonderful cultural and other reasons for living in Canada.

Much of my family is in Toronto and while they complain about the weather a whole lot, most prefer the societal aspects of life in Canada. It's all just a matter of personal preferences!

Assumptions that the Canadian economy is weaker than the US economy are false. There are more opportunities in the US for sure - of course! It's a MUCH bigger market. But in fact, Canada's economy has been running in surplus for about 10 years now. The US has been running at a huge deficit for many, many years and even now, the credit crunch is likely to trigger further US liquidity problems and deeper economic woes for many parts of the nation.

Canada will also likely suffer, but all in all, weather aside, it is a wonderful place. It also has one of the best futures in terms of stability due to it's incredible resource base and all the emerging markets worldwide that are hungry for those resources.

However, you really should just be patient. The US is a wonderful place to live and when you get your Green Card you will look back on all of this as just an episode that is thankfully behind you.
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Posted by echoes (216) 27 Jul 2008
Thanks alot for your detailed comparison I really appreciate that .I will think about it seriously.Again Thx a lot.
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Posted by reddy18 (145) 27 Jul 2008
Greenway I lived in Toronto canada for 3 years Although physically everything looks same but Canada is no way comparable to US interms of Jobs,Living,Taxation and Wages. Toronto is very expensive and compensation is very less. After staying in US you will definately cant adjust there. My suggestion is dont even think of Canada
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Posted by deepak200 (263) 27 Jul 2008
I lived in Toronto for 3 years as well... I did my Bacholer from uni of toronto.. Now, I am in california and be honest with you i would prefer to live in Usa rather than canada
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Posted by hnks (208) 27 Jul 2008
Greenway
If I was you, I would not do it specially if you already have many opportunities in the US
I have a brother in law who immigrated to Canada 7 years ago. He was doing great back home before he left (getting about $1500.00 a month, and you know how much is this in our currency). He had good experience in International companies and buisness and courses completed in the US.
He spent about 6 months to find a job when he moved to Canada. And his wife (who is british) spent more than a year looking for a job. They complained that Canadians always have the priority (understandable) and spent lots of money and I mean lots, the cost of living is expensive and the only way was to take tests and get Canadian degrees. Took stressful exams and others till he found a job.
Recently, he changed to the real estate buisness in BC and beleive it or not, they did not do buisness for the last 6 months.
I have heard a lot about the high cost of living and the high taxes in addition to the bad weather in 90% of the country. If you don't like that cold weather, you will be stuck in very few places to find a opportunities
THink again and All the best to you
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Posted by etiennelau (22) 27 Jul 2008
I am also a Canadian trying to get his GC. I lived most of my life in Canada. But left in 2001, because I was tired of the very high cost of living in Vancouver. The lack of jobs and opportunities, and horrible pay makes that high cost of living unbearable.

The health care system in Canada is fine assuming you get the the care, ie you will have to be on a wait list for a lot of things. The wait lists just keeps growing every year. Doctors and nurses leave Canada every year because of better pay and better opportunity. So don't let people fool you into believing the Canadian health is so wonderful. How can it be if health care professionals are are leaving.

Job opportunities are far and few for Canadian born individuals. What does that mean for new immigrants???? Not a lot of opportunities. While living in Vancouver, I would go to restaurants and meet PH.D 's working as waiter and waitress in restaurants!!! They cannot get jobs, because of their language skills, and the most famous phrase "NO CANADIAN WORK EXPERIENCE, THEREFORE WE CANNOT HIRE YOU!!!!!"

Stick it out for your GC. Don't lose hope.
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Posted by metr5550 (612) 27 Jul 2008

Is it the time to switch gears to Canada. According what I got to know, obtaining Canadian PR is easy for skilled workers. I started looking for job overthere. I have few questions though
1- Is US immigration become a drean diffiult to come true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2- is it wise to spend our life waiting and going through this mess h1,I-140,I-485,interviews ,AOS, paying money to attorney,calling congressman,............... while the same quality of life country is opening its arms for immgrants !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3-does US not really want new immirants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
any feed back!!!!!!!!1




Dear friend, bottom line forget about, it cannot get ever better than the current situation. forget about Canada
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Posted by libr76 (178) 28 Jul 2008
greenway,

can sympathize with your agony, its your life & you have to choose. if you have kids then some consideration for their future growth & opportunities. Canada is pretty good bet, considering its openness to other cultures (by the administration) as I understand from its policies but from a social point of view you have to refer to someone who has lived there. If racism exists and to what extent.

you have to understand Canada will become more stronger financially in future for the oil sands, and the vast land mass for agriculture. But considering a life, as in good schools / eduction for kids, a social existence can't predict... Apart from a handfull big cities like Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver .... a lot fewer than the number of cities in US

I hope it helps, apart from this one of the quotes I admire the most.

Brick walls are there for a reason. The brick walls are not there to keep us out. The brick walls are there to show how badly we want something. Because the brick walls are there to stop the people who don’t want something badly enough. They are there to keep out the other people.
- Randy Pausch ( 1960-2008 )
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