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Topic: AUSTRALIAN PR----IS IT EASY TO GET?
any input welcome.
I decided to keep it as back up because US is not giving GC
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pr of any country is not easy for indians and chinese
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eb1desi,
The reason I asked this question is one of my indian friend got it in 3 weeks. he applied his Australian PR from US.
Is it that easy to get Australian PR?
thats my question as I am seriously thinking of using it as backup plan
whats your suggestion?
if anyone in this forum has similar ideas?
please let me know
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If u have the qualifying points then yes you can get it faster if applied from USA than from India.
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absolutely true.
I also have some friends of mine got their Australian PR in 1 year time frame when they apply from US.
This is good option for indians especially who are in US. I wouldnt recommend someone applying from India as it takes atleast 6-7 years. also they have interview process for indians who apply from India. so basically its very tough to get if you apply from India but if its apply from US, you will get within 1 year with no interview
good luck to anyone who is applying australian Pr
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do you know any lawyer who can help us with this process.
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one of my friend went through beyderwellen law firm. They are really good.
he got his case approved in about 8-12 months.
here is the link
http://www.beyderwellen.com/
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check their website...you need qual points and if you are young (under 30) and work in an area on their list, it is easy to get aus pr. it is very much like canadian pr.
if you have an mba from a top institute, you can also try for uk pr (they give extra brownie points for mbas :)
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wow. this is interesting.....
hope next destination is australia if US is not going to give us GC very soon
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any input welcome.
I decided to keep it as back up because US is not giving GC
Australian PR process is relatively easier that the sytem here in the states , they have a point based system like they have in Canada
There are several ways to get it
If someone has been in australia as a student for more than 6 months the Austalian Government ENCOURAGES the students to apply for Australian PR , and normally applications which are filed in Australia take 6-8 months for approval
Applications which have been filed outside Australia take about 18 months to 2 years for approval , they have various categories like skilled professional etc , however it is important that you have atleast 6-7 years of professional experience so that you can reap the maximum benefits from the point system |
franticsky:
Do you know the point system?
can you please share it to us?
Thanks
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Is it good to Prefer Canada or Australia...distance wise from our home countries I know Australia is good, but other factors like Job market ,weather.....
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why are you concerned about GC if you have 140 and EAD ?
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You are one of those who is bitten by a FORIEGN bug. I wonder why people consider other countries as backup plan? Especially when India is doing so good. This only shows that how much competitive you are. If you are really good in what you do, you should not really worry. Well having said that, each individual has his right for desires, dreams, etc to suite his living. Best of luck my firend
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franticsky:
Do you know the point system?
can you please share it to us?
Thanks
Please go to this website to get more info
http://www.immi.gov.au/ |
Its not about foreign bug , its about the quality of life , having money does not mean that you will have the same quality of life, just by having money does not mean that you have to stop paying bribes to the telephone lineman to keep yor fone alive , or pay bribe to the postman to bring your letters , or to travel like animals in a mis-managed and broken public transport system , havent you seen people travelling in local trains in Mumbai ? Havent you seen the big pot holes in bangalore ? where to travel a distance of 5 miles you have to spend atleast 2 hours in your car or bus
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Australian job market is very good for engineers , doctors , agricultural workers etc , IT jobs are available but they are not as abundant as they are in the United States , most of the IT market in Australia is dominated by Infosys , TCS and Satyam , indpendent consulting is also popular there , but jobs are concetrated only in the bigegr cities lile Sydney , Melbourne , Perth , Brisbane
Plenty of jobs are available in construction , manufacturing , mining , health care , accounting fields
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hi mkjmkv,
people want good quality of life. Thats the reason people go to countries like australia, US, canada, UK, newzealand and netherland. nowadays you see indians in all these countries.
i am good at what I am doing. thats the reason I have got into US. The reason we all thought of going to similar country like US is because of the following reasons.
1) Good Quality of Life
2) US GC is taking longer time and we dont have freedom.
I am not saying india is bad but we all have some expectations and we try to achieve that.
why would we all consider australia, and other developed countries if US gives us GC in 1-2 years. since US is not, we are exploring other options.
I thank people here who gave us valuable input.
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Its not about foreign bug , its about the quality of life , having money does not mean that you will have the same quality of life, just by having money does not mean that you have to stop paying bribes to the telephone lineman to keep yor fone alive , or pay bribe to the postman to bring your letters , or to travel like animals in a mis-managed and broken public transport system , havent you seen people travelling in local trains in Mumbai ? Havent you seen the big pot holes in bangalore ? where to travel a distance of 5 miles you have to spend atleast 2 hours in your car or bus
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that's true
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This is absolutely true. I agree with the people here who said Quality of life over the money.
Australia is friendly to immigrants nowadays. Its also very easy to get in if you apply from United States. I recommend people who are less than 30 years old in this forum to apply for it as they get the maximum points in the age category.
go ahead guys. US is not giving GC why not we take other countries who are willing to give GC in very short time
also, in 5 years time, US will be hated by immigrants as they are treating so badly.
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yup we all agree quality of life over money
Thanks for the post
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The point system is confusing. I just went over it
how many points they have for people who did masters in US
can anyone know this
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Australians are not as friendly as it seems on paper , my wife's cousin is a Doctor there , he is an Australian Citizen , born and brought up there , one evening he was the only doctor on duty when his hospital had an emergency case , the patient and his family refused to be treated by an Indian Doctor , not only did they say this they said that they want a white doctor to treat the patient , remember it was an emergency
I have stayed in Australia for a period of 2 years and people there are very very arrogant
Yes they give residency in a very short time because there is an acute shortage of trained and educated workforce there , and immigrants are the main source of filling up these gaps , most of the australians drink beer and play cricket and footy (another form of rugby )
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I agree. It used to be but with more indian population now and also cricket relationship between australia and india being good, its far better than it used to be.
as you said, many people dont like australia because there is some element of racism stille exists there
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first concentrate on getting US GC. we will think abt australian later
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The point system is confusing. I just went over it
how many points they have for people who did masters in US
can anyone know this
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As per my knowledge if the points are 120+ , there are chances.
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redsun,
do you mean if we get 120, we get our PR immediately?
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do you mean if we get 120, we get our PR immediately?
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This is the minimum requirement... Like I know some of my friends applied for Canadian and it took around 1 to 2 years for most of them. Australia would be similar... they might follow a process after you get qualified basing on points, like they do for canada fingerprints,medicals ...blah blah...which might take a while from start to the end. But the basic qualification would be these points to get your application started.
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so the fees are 5000+ just for the visa only, and another 5-8k for lawyer, am i crazy to move to australia, where as my total cost of us pr is at the most 2500 including past and future mailing fees, yes us pr is cheaper then AUS so there are drawbacks such a long waiting time etc etc.
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is there any restrictions in Aus PR like you have to be there for 3 years minimum out of 5 yrs etc. like canada, we have you must be there for atleast 2 years out of 5 years. In australia do you know the minimum requ?
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can anyone answer the question below?
is there any restrictions in Aus PR like you have to be there for 3 years minimum out of 5 yrs etc. like canada, we have you must be there for atleast 2 years out of 5 years. In australia do you know the minimum requ?
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is there any restrictions in Aus PR like you have to be there for 3 years minimum out of 5 yrs etc. like canada, we have you must be there for atleast 2 years out of 5 years. In australia do you know the minimum requ?
yes there are retrictions , if you stay out of the countru for more than 6 months you lose ur PR |
so the fees are 5000+ just for the visa only, and another 5-8k for lawyer, am i crazy to move to australia, where as my total cost of us pr is at the most 2500 including past and future mailing fees, yes us pr is cheaper then AUS so there are drawbacks such a long waiting time etc etc.
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5000 AUS $ or US $ ? becaue if we are going for AUS or CAN , it's better to do it ourselves...no need to spend on lawyers...so the fee will only be the processing fee....
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redsun,
do you mean if we get 120, we get our PR immediately?
Nothing happens immidiately , there are lot of intermediate steps , like you and your family members have to take TOEFL exams etc |
thats major flaw for people who has GC pending want to apply for AUS PR.
Now I see why people go for CANADIAN PR rather tha aus PR.
we indians are very smart fellows
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Australians are not as friendly as it seems on paper , my wife's cousin is a Doctor there , he is an Australian Citizen , born and brought up there , one evening he was the only doctor on duty when his hospital had an emergency case , the patient and his family refused to be treated by an Indian Doctor , not only did they say this they said that they want a white doctor to treat the patient , remember it was an emergency
I have stayed in Australia for a period of 2 years and people there are very very arrogant
Yes they give residency in a very short time because there is an acute shortage of trained and educated workforce there , and immigrants are the main source of filling up these gaps , most of the australians drink beer and play cricket and footy (another form of rugby )
First of all, I think the issue you report with your Doctor friend, it happens in the US as well. It may be a woman from a rural area who had misconceptions about the comprehension ability of your friend, or perhaps she was a bigot. That's one anecdote and not a trend. I do agree with your general sentiment though.
However, one should keep in mind that the Australian economy is *highly* dependent on demand from China and SE Asia. Anytime the demand dries up, Australians would gang up on the foreigners there. Read about the "White Australia" policy that kept non-whites from becoming citizens until 1973. There is a strong pattern of anti-Asian feelings, especially in rural areas. Australia is not a multicultural society like England, and they're gruff people -- not particularly friendly.
The good thing is that if you work in Australia and then leave, they give you your tax contributions back. Learn the facts, guys. |
eb1..you sure it is 5000 usd ?? that is quite a bit.
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so the fees are 5000+ just for the visa only, and another 5-8k for lawyer, am i crazy to move to australia, where as my total cost of us pr is at the most 2500 including past and future mailing fees, yes us pr is cheaper then AUS so there are drawbacks such a long waiting time etc etc.
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5000 AUS $ or US $ ? becaue if we are going for AUS or CAN , it's better to do it ourselves...no need to spend on lawyers...so the fee will only be the processing fee....
These days it does not matter, they're about the same. |
can anyone answer the question below?
is there any restrictions in Aus PR like you have to be there for 3 years minimum out of 5 yrs etc. like canada, we have you must be there for atleast 2 years out of 5 years. In australia do you know the minimum requ?
Yes!! |
Australians are not as friendly as it seems on paper , my wife's cousin is a Doctor there , he is an Australian Citizen , born and brought up there , one evening he was the only doctor on duty when his hospital had an emergency case , the patient and his family refused to be treated by an Indian Doctor , not only did they say this they said that they want a white doctor to treat the patient , remember it was an emergency
I have stayed in Australia for a period of 2 years and people there are very very arrogant
Yes they give residency in a very short time because there is an acute shortage of trained and educated workforce there , and immigrants are the main source of filling up these gaps , most of the australians drink beer and play cricket and footy (another form of rugby )
First of all, I think the issue you report with your Doctor friend, it happens in the US as well. It may be a woman from a rural area who had misconceptions about the comprehension ability of your friend, or perhaps she was a bigot. That's one anecdote and not a trend. I do agree with your general sentiment though.
However, one should keep in mind that the Australian economy is *highly* dependent on demand from China and SE Asia. Anytime the demand dries up, Australians would gang up on the foreigners there. Read about the "White Australia" policy that kept non-whites from becoming citizens until 1973. There is a strong pattern of anti-Asian feelings, especially in rural areas. Australia is not a multicultural society like England, and they're gruff people -- not particularly friendly.
The good thing is that if you work in Australia and then leave, they give you your tax contributions back. Learn the facts, guys.
There is a very strong anti Indian and anti china mentality in Australia in biug cities like Sydney , Melbourne , Perth , Hobart , Brisbane , Canberra , its not just confined to the rural areas , the Doctor who I mentioned is my brother in law and is my wife's first cousin , who lives and works in Melbourne ( infact was born in melbourne) which is not a rural area
Yes I agree it happens in US as well , but it the level of social acceptance that people get in the United States , no other country in the world can match that level
They do give the tax back , that is true , in the United states you wont get the taxes back , but you can get your social security money back once you attan the age of 60
But the broader question is people are trying an option to migrate there , not just earn money and leave..if leaving is an option then people can work here as well , earn money and leave... |
so the fees are 5000+ just for the visa only, and another 5-8k for lawyer, am i crazy to move to australia, where as my total cost of us pr is at the most 2500 including past and future mailing fees, yes us pr is cheaper then AUS so there are drawbacks such a long waiting time etc etc.
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5000 AUS $ or US $ ? becaue if we are going for AUS or CAN , it's better to do it ourselves...no need to spend on lawyers...so the fee will only be the processing fee....
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These days it does not matter, they're about the same.
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there is a good difference
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you dont necessarily need to hire a lawyer , you can do it urself for australian immigration
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You are one of those who is bitten by a FORIEGN bug. I wonder why people consider other countries as backup plan? Especially when India is doing so good. This only shows that how much competitive you are. If you are really good in what you do, you should not really worry. Well having said that, each individual has his right for desires, dreams, etc to suite his living. Best of luck my firend
I think , there is nothing to do with the foreign bug buddy.
These days, the foreign bug is not exactly rampant back in india especially with international travel being a given thing now.
As someone said, its more to do with standard of living. Some people want to go for fulltime master's programs, start a business, buy a home, settle down and stuff. With this 6-8 year carrot dangling in front of us by USCIS in the name of PR, sometimes its easy to lose sight of other goals in life.
First generation immigration is a symbiotic relationship. If the US is not willing, so be it. There are plenty of other opportunities to explore for folks and that has nothing to do with competitiveness of the individual as such.
Economy or no Economy, USA / Canada/Australia/India, you got to be good at what you do to end up somewhere or the other. |
rightly said.
if the choice is to live, buy house and settle, go for AUS PR or CAN PR but if the option is ear and leave, it doesnt matter.
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Good points, franticsky. It is ironic that a country colonized by convicts prefers isolationism. But then again, it's an island nation with no neighbors, so to speak of. They develop their own mentality. I am surprised to learn that you felt rampant racism even in metros: it's not that I don't believe you, it just makes me wonder why people immigrate to a place like that at all!! I had some friends go to Australia to do their MS, but they paid a lot of money to do so (hardly anyone got a scholarship of any kind) and half of them were unable to find a job there; they also cited racism. At that time the economy was bad world wide, but looks like they were telling the truth after all.
The US certainly has more respect for other cultures, and people are more polite so social acceptance is higher. I personally would not want to immigrate to Australia. And I think that's what your impression is.
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racism exists in differnt levels in all countries
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Thanks for this informative Thread.
I have made up my decision to stick with US GC only.
The reasons are
I cannot go to australia because if I dont stay for 6 months, then i will lose PR
also its a racist country
i dont want to be part of racist country
I love US only
For me, I consider US as my birth country and not INDIA. India is only 2nd in my list
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comeon sajdelhi
dont say India is 2nd. Its ur mother country. only after india is US
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Thanks for this informative Thread.
I have made up my decision to stick with US GC only.
The reasons are
I cannot go to australia because if I dont stay for 6 months, then i will lose PR
also its a racist country
i dont want to be part of racist country
I love US only
For me, I consider US as my birth country and not INDIA. India is only 2nd in my list
"i dont want to be part of racist country"
Neither do I, probably best if you go to the US - Texas maybe? |
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