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Topic: IF A GO AT EMBASSY IN PERSON ARE THEY GIVE ME INFORMATION ABOUT MY CASE???
GUY I'M THINKING TO GO AT OFFICE VISA AT ROME IN PERSON. DO YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE GIVE ME SOME INFO ABOUT MY PROCESS. ????I WROTE A MAIL 1 MONTH AGO E THEY DON'T REPLAY ME!!!!!
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I would think they would give you the run around and not tell you much. You would not likely get access to the area that works on the visas. As this is a very emotional issue for most people... they would likey be very protective and not tell you anything in person, but advise you to apply in writing or through e-mail.
As I have not done any of this: I am only guessing. I can tell you I also considered going in person, but hung in there.
You can make Case specific inquiries at https://dmp-portal.cic.gc.ca/cicemail/intro-eng.aspx?mission=rome
or general inquiries e-mail at romevisa@international.gc.ca
keep in mind the guide's reference that if you are asking before the date posted in your AOR that they may put your file to the back of the queue. Idle threat? I don't know, but I chose not to send any referenced questions.
Good luck in what you decide.
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Wolvie,
Thank you for providing that link to CIC for case specific enquiries. I didn't know about it before or that something like it even existed!
Can you clarify 'AOR' is Advise of Receipt (of the case file?) I don't think I've seen it in long form.
I only ever got the approval of sponsorship and that our case was going to the Lima Peru Cdn Embassy for processing.
I would pretty much think our case is wayyyyy OVERDUE. 19 months until they asked my husband for renewed passport to complete the information to move on with a "final evaluation". Passpor to them April 1. It's now 10 1/2 weeks since that time, longer than anything I've seen on trackitt. The Lima embassy also have not answered 2 email equiries I sent on May 25 and June 4. I will definitely try that website and see if I get anywhere.
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Wolvie,
I agree with you that the case specific is particular to each Visa office....!
I don't recive any AOR! Today are 5 month that my process start and I don't have any notice. :(
Thank Wolvie for your advice.
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I sent a case specific enquiry on June 12 to the Lima Embassy, as well as a THIRD email to the Lima general email address I had always used for prior enquiries. I got a "Read Receipt" at the end of the next day, but still no reply from them from them, or as a result of the case specific submission. Now 11 weeks since my husband turned in his passport to them, and pushing 3 1/2 weeks since my first email sent to them to ask where things were at since it seemed longer than passport-to-finish timeline. I am disgusted with the Lima Embassy, they are completely inefficient.
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I did a quick check on the Lima/Canadian immigration web site.... They say they answer Case specific within 15 days... I know this is not an answer you were looking for, but if you submitted on the 12th, their case specific is not late until the 27th.
I know how you feel. It is an emotional time and all you want is your loved one home. I wish you the strength you need to go through this.
You did notice that the case specific inquiry allowed for your MP to request info? If you have not heard by the 27th, I think your local MP's office would be your next step.
Hang in there...
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Thanks Wolvie,
I didn't know they posted a timeline to reply for case specific enquiries, I appreciate the info. I didn't mention before that I got my MP's office involved already, they are contacting them also. I got them involved also last fall when another step of the process had been going on for far too long. I just don't know why the Lima office seems to be just soooo slow in everything they do when so many of the other int'l offices are processing cases quickly like clockwork even from countries that are considered to be suspect for the same kinds of 'negatively associated activities' that Peru might be lumped with. I will be writing them again on Monday, will be the 4th attempt, even after a "read receipt" last week, and 4 full weeks since I made my first enquiry. That's just plain ignoring the enquiries and plainly rude, or they don't know what's going on inside their own office which would NOT surprise me at all!!!
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There is also a form to request your case notes. I think it cost $5 to process, but I will dig around and see if I can find the form for that too.If you search around, you will find the Bureaucrats have a time line and a manual for everything... Does not mean they follow it, but I have found, they get intimidated when you know, really how late they are. In the end, I think you will find no malice, but rather a question waiting for a senior to second is usually the culprit. In organizations such as these, no one wants to take responsibility to make a decision, so if the forms are just so... then you wait for a senior thinker.
I hope you are right on the clockwork. We have gotten the passport request, but I seen nothing that says decision made. So I am not sure that I am out of the woods yet.
Keep us posted on your battles!
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Today I just mailed a request for my case notes (CAIPS). I hadn't thought there was enough reason to request them because in a previous delay I always had an idea why our case was stalled. Not exact specifics as to what was happening, but I knew they were taking way too long to verify my husband's obligatory military service. It took them one year almost to the day ( or MADE it take that time) to confirm he was a supply clerk, not a dangerous terrorist. Just STUPID. But we got past that and now are almost at 3 months for the final evaluation and granting the PR visa. THIS TIME I sent for the CAIPS notes to find out WHY SO LONG these idiots are spending on this when there's been almost no other Spouse case gone beyond "maybe" 6 weeks from the time a passport was submitted. Of course it's the military service again but THAT HAS BEEN CHECKED. How long does it take to read over a file. If any of these one tasks took any of us this long to complete in our private sector jobs, we'd be fired for imcompetence. The Peru-Canada free trade act was signed last Thurs AT the Cdn Embassy in Lima and I'm 100% certain there was not a scrap of work done for several weeks prior to the BIG PARTY and no one's cases moved forward.
I feel like I've pulled out all the stops by keeping at them writing requesting a status, I've sent a case specific request, and have gotten my MP involved again. What an absolutley idiotic process for Family Class BUT I just heard again in the news today that they are trying to streamline the TEMPORARY Foreign workers admission process to make it EVEN faster than ever. Can you say RESENTMENT??
Thanks for your support Wolvie, I don't know what the time line is for Rome.
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Well in my case I just received response from the MP in Toronto. He did contact the CIC and they told him the same exact line that my case is "with other government agency and they cannot predict when it will be done".
I am approaching 14 months!! And the medical was done 16 months ago!! When does my wife need to do it again?
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The medical will have expired, as well as police checks and any other "timed" documents. Once they are ready to proceed with your case, they will call your wife to request these updated documents. So don't go ahead and do anything until the processing embassy asks for it.
I am going to ask on the posting sites I am on, for everybody to write to the Minister of Immigration Diane Finley to complain about the length of time it is taking for our legitimate spouse applications to be processed, while every week it seems I am hearing on the news that the Gov't is trying to make it easier and faster for TEMPORARY FOREIGN WORKERS to enter Canada. Our spouse cases are taking a back seat and seem to not be a priority that the staffing resouces in CIC are being concentrated on, it's the TFW that are getting preferential treatment.
Our spouses will not be here TEMORARILY, our spouses are the PERMANENT answer to adding people in the work force and the tax base. Our spouses will not disappear from a job they were brought here for. Our spouses have the social benefit of a sponsor that will help them blend into Canada's culture.
The only way for them to KNOW this is a huge problem (because THEY think they are just doing fine if they hear no negative feedback), is to flood them with our voices telling them we are unhappy about the fact that TFW are coming here before our spouses, and in some cases getting their PR status before our family class cases. I know that people have said that contacting the minister directly about their specific case has not helped, they didn't help with mine either. But this is to complain that there are MANY of us seeing the same thing happening and that their priorities are backwards. I'm also going to say that for all the news that is continually coming out on fast tracking TFW even more, it would be interesting to make public the other side of the story that Spouses and Partners are on the SLOW TRACK. If you fear reprocussions on your case, get a hotmail or yahoo account to make the complaint, initially there just needs to be VOLUME so they know there is a problem in the system.
The snail mail address is below, and the email address is after that. Please write so they hear our opinion and take notice of this disparity between family class and the fast tracked TFW.
The Honourable Diane Finley, P.C., M.P.
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 1L1
Or: Minister@cic.gc.ca
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I sent a letter to Ms. Finley and to a newspaper column telling them that I thought the whole infrastructure of the information system is wrong. After all the technology to track a package from door step to doorstep is out there! I think it is totally unfair the lack of information and apathy on the conditions on which they MAY provide information!!!
All that being said: I don't know if I would have weathered the whole situation as well as you seem to have. I now have a "Decision Made" status in the CIC web site and the passport has been sent. I was beserk and I was under 6 months. You make me feel like I way over reacted way too early.
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Which newspaper did you write to, maybe I can write to an affiliated one as well so they have another story with the same complaint.
When you are waiting and it is all out of your hands what CAN you do? We are at the mercy of these "public servant" paper pushers that don't have to answer to anyone. I wish the whole process were automated by computers, there would be no human factor involved that would make choices to make people's lives miserable and be all in their control. Computers would adhere to timelines and not be allowed to let cases sit and sit with no activity or progress.
I have no clue at this point why our case is going nowhere with no request for any further info. and no reason why we are stalled. Tuesday is 5 weeks since my first request was made for an update, my MP's office told me it could be a month to reply but it's more than that now. The MP's office has 2 requests in and have not been answered yet. I'm not mad, or berserk, or anything like that. I'm disgusted, appalled, offended, and have lost all respect for this country's Government.
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I have also sent an e-mail to the MP. They replied the next day and they followed up on my case immediately. The bad news is that they got me the same answers that I already have when I sent e-mails to the consulate in Buffalo, which is "Your case is awaiting answers from other government agencies, and there is no way to tell when they'll be done".
The MP's office told me to check back in 2 months! It's been already 13 months! But, oh well ...
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I sent it to greg.weston@sunmedia.ca. Mr. Weston had just finished an article on the express service skilled people were going to get.... The attached is what I sent.. April 22nd 2008
I found your story "Myth busters, immigration style" but you are just scratching the surface.
I, like most Canadians have always considered immigration part of life from the past. New Canadians are just late party comers’. "Glad to see you ... don't take all the beer!"
As a whole I assumed. If you wanted to come... it was like getting your driver's license renewed.... annoying, but no big deal.
I feel I have good command of the English language; I can read and write adequately. Perhaps I have become overly dependant upon my spell checker… In 2007: I had a paradigm shift. I married a beautiful lady who happened to be Vietnamese. We read all that we could from the Immigration web sites, we consulted others, and we ordered kits and read each page thoroughly… When we completed, double checked and taken every advice to expedite all matters we mailed our “package” to CIC.
Up till now all is rosy… there is no doubt in our minds that the process in the works and in three months we expect to be together in one country and ready to begin our lives.
Now if you read every page… the process works something like this:
You pay your sponsorship application fee.
You send your sponsor ship paperwork to the appropriate office.
If approved. They send you a notice. You pay for your application fee and you can send the paperwork to the appropriate CIC office or embassy.
They send you an AOR “application Receipt” This is supposed to outline a projected time for the completion of your processing of your case. Now this important! You are not to contact them until this projected time has passed! Otherwise your only other guide is the 2006 statistics and your own limited judgment of where you may fit in to the % of the completed cases. It actually states if you contacted them before the allotted time and they need to reference your file and remove your file from the queue: it will be returned to the end of the line…..
Now of course you feel kind of like a hostage… you don’t even get a chance at Stockholm syndrome because you never meet your hostage taker. You have no idea of when. Your life comes on hold. You are afraid to complain because you can not see the effect. Once the numbness passes you feel there has to be other “external” information sites and there are. One is http://www.trackitt.com/canada-immigration-trackers/family-class/ . One has to keep in mind that if you were to receive your information in an allotted or at least in an informed time that sites like this would not exist. Nor that people who get their visa in a timely manner would utilize a site like this… so the results may be skewed.
With all those provisos…. Remember that AOR letter Only a small percentage seem to get one.
Then GREAT NEWS! You find out that CIC recognizes that they have a backlog. Imagine that! I read all the articles with great interest. I found nothing that would actually speed things up. In fact, I noted that it would not help me at all because I applied before the date they arbitrarily set up to help all applications after… IF a bill is passed.
On the whole, for a system that has a priority for “reuniting” families: It seems to go out of its way to accentuate the pain of separation, minimizing information and thereby perpetuate an overwhelming feeling of limbo because you can not plan the next month!
Oh, and by the way two weeks ago I sent a note of frustration to the Minister of Immigration The Honourable Diane Finley, P.C., M.P. and did not even get the standard Aid's acknowledgment with it's thank's for my letter and they would take it under advisement... yada yada yada!
Waiting without a clue...
Reguards,
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hi Wolvie,
I just wrote an email to the Minister as well, but I don't think I'll get a reply. I got a confirmation receipt but it stated that many types of general enquiries will not be replied to, please use the list of processing offices to contact the one your case is with. Gee, isn't that WHY I'm writing the Minister because the jerks at the processing office haven't answered me in 5 weeks and my case is still in "final review" after 3 months, and is coming up to TWO YEARS in August since our application was sent in to Mississauga, TWO YEARS at the end of Sept since Lima Peru had our file to start on.
I will be writing your reporter as well, did you get a reply from him yet? I also have a letter that I got from some flunkie inside the CIC Minister's office the LAST time my case was stalled, I will be sending him the same letter contained in my email and see what his reaction is. But that will be several weeks until a reply comes.
Not sure if you've found this website but it is a great site for info. and stories too.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/index.php
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Your note above said 15 days for a reply from a Case Specific enquiry, did you happen to notice if it said 15 business days, or just 15 days? June 27 has come and gone, so 15 business days would be Friday. I'm going to see if I get any reply by end of the day Friday, if not I'll add this to my list of enquiries not answered that I'm tracking with my MP's office. They also have a request in with them also that has not been answered after 2 1/2 weeks now, going on 3 by Monday when I contact them again.
thanks
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I would assume business days... Excluding Canadian and Local holidays. Go to the Lima embassy web site and check hours of operation. Not to make excuses for them, but it is best for your complaint have their excuses factored in.
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You hit the nail on the head when you said Canadian and local holidays. I am POSITIVE nothing happened the entire month before the Canada-Peru Free Trade Agreement was signed, IN Lima, AT the Cdn Embassy. Of course all work was halted to prepare for visiting dignitaries and the ensuing party and celebrations. Then came Canada day and I think there was "yet another" Peruvian holiday the Monday so of course an extra long weekend . Then in solidarity for the 4th of July must attend the U.S.-Cdn-UK annual party so another long weekend.
That's the job to get hey? Work in a Gov't country club job and get dual holidays every time both countries observe one. Where do I sign up.
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My MP has now contacted the Minister's office for an answer to this no communication from the Lima Embassy. They had requested my husband's passport end of March and he dropped it off April 1.
I started writing on May 26, almost two months later since most PR Visas seem to be issued in 2-6 weeks. After 5 weekly requests, it's now been 6 weeks that they have not answered, 14 weeks since they've had his passport. I also sent a Case Specific enquiry mid June that has not been answered yet.
My MP wrote to Lima starting June 16, sent another request on July 2, and just today July 7 they sent an enquiry to the CIC Minister's office requesting info.
We'll see where this goes.
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