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fate of H4 EAD

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Posted by brethart (44) 17 Apr 2018#51
to betinhodsantos:

Hope your friend knew that GC is based on country of birth and not citizenship. Even if he is an Australian citizen, his GC will be based on his country of birth which would be India. He will eventually get his US citizenship after many many many years like rest of us Indians.
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Posted by burtcocaine (317) 17 Apr 2018#52

Hope your friend knew that GC is based on country of birth and not citizenship. Even if he is an Australian citizen, his GC will be based on his country of birth which would be India. He will eventually get his US citizenship after many many many years like rest of us Indians.

to brethart:

Aussies can just keep working here on E3 (indefinite and spouses can work as well) and then retire in sunny Australia.
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Posted by dreamerforever (172) 17 Apr 2018#53


Hope your friend knew that GC is based on country of birth and not citizenship. Even if he is an Australian citizen, his GC will be based on his country of birth which would be India. He will eventually get his US citizenship after many many many years like rest of us Indians.

to burtcocaine:

Aussies can just keep working here on E3 (indefinite and spouses can work as well) and then retire in sunny Australia.



While this is true, you still need an employer to "sponsor" for your E3 visa, it is not a self petition...so that will still deter many companies from hiring you just like H1 sponsorship.
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Posted by desipolitics (36) 17 Apr 2018#54


This doesnt make sense to me - If he has an Australian passport , why would he go for a H1 , they have E3 visa .

to betinhodsantos:



Duh genius....because you couldn't apply for Green Card while on E3 and he did not have a spouse, he was single at the time. Even though he was an Australian citizen, life did not turn out very well for him in Australia, he worked at a gas station attached to a retailer (kinda like Costco or Meijer) in Australia for 3 years. His ultimate goal was US passport, not Australian. Plus he came through a NJ based desi consulting company, maybe H1 is all he did. Also, he was contracting through a middle layer which was owned by a Filipino guy. I had asked him if the Filipino guy (the middle vendor who was the client's direct subcontractor) knew about his background and he said no



Still doesnt make sense . Do some research before you come with fake posts . Why did he want to get a US passport ? Why should he spend time and money on h1 , when he can get a E3 .
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Posted by betinhodsantos (343) 22 hours 51 minutes ago#55

Hope your friend knew that GC is based on country of birth and not citizenship. Even if he is an Australian citizen, his GC will be based on his country of birth which would be India. He will eventually get his US citizenship after many many many years like rest of us Indians.

to brethart:



He is not my friend. That was the whole point I was making. He blurted out everything to me while he barely knew me, thinking that I'd be supportive of his acts just because of mere coincidence of being born in the same country. Back then, I did not let anyone know but if this were to happen now, I'd probably. And I have no idea where he is, he worked at the same place as I did for 6 months so, then I ran into him in a grocery store about a year later (he had put on like 20 lbs). And that was 2006 or 2007. But he'd always stand out for me, the first instance of blatant fraud that I had seen. There were also other fraudulent activities that I had seen, not necessarily H1 fraud, but tax fraud committed by people on H1. They used to file taxes with a shady consultant called IBSN tax consultants who raised their tax returns by adding fraudulent non-reimbursed business expenses. What was even worse was that, the WITCH company that I used to work for had a "tie-up" with them which led employees to get a "special rate". They were finally busted in around 2010, you can read about the what those IBSN clients had to go through once the racket was busted. Oh and by the way, IBSN used to called their blatant fraud as "tax planning".
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Posted by vijayus (249) 22 hours 40 minutes ago#56



They used to file taxes with a shady consultant called IBSN tax consultants who raised their tax returns by adding fraudulent non-reimbursed business expenses. What was even worse was that, the WITCH company that I used to work for had a "tie-up" with them which led employees to get a "special rate".

to betinhodsantos:



I remember those dark days. My company had an alliance with IBSN and we all used to file with them. Worst part was that if you were not happy with your returns, you could haggle and get more return. None of us knew about the tax rules and all of us thought this stuff is legit. In 2009 (after one year of filing with them), I transitioned to taxactonline (now I am on turbotax) and realized that IBSN was running an absolutely fraud shop. Since then I have always taken standard deduction, declared all my India income and paid taxes on that (interests, dividends) and filed all FBARs.

Such frauds still exists. I still see shady tax consultants pushing itemized deductions on newcomers to USA. Not knowing the law is not an excuse but I would blame it on my WITCH company for an alliance with a shady tax filer.
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Posted by betinhodsantos (343) 21 hours 59 minutes ago#57




They used to file taxes with a shady consultant called IBSN tax consultants who raised their tax returns by adding fraudulent non-reimbursed business expenses. What was even worse was that, the WITCH company that I used to work for had a "tie-up" with them which led employees to get a "special rate".

to vijayus:



I remember those dark days. My company had an alliance with IBSN and we all used to file with them. Worst part was that if you were not happy with your returns, you could haggle and get more return. None of us knew about the tax rules and all of us thought this stuff is legit. In 2009 (after one year of filing with them), I transitioned to taxactonline (now I am on turbotax) and realized that IBSN was running an absolutely fraud shop. Since then I have always taken standard deduction, declared all my India income and paid taxes on that (interests, dividends) and filed all FBARs.

Such frauds still exists. I still see shady tax consultants pushing itemized deductions on newcomers to USA. Not knowing the law is not an excuse but I would blame it on my WITCH company for an alliance with a shady tax filer.



I agree that a lot of people did it unknowingly, as in they thought it was legitimate but honestly, if you took a look at the return they created, anybody with half a brain would know they are faking things. I asked a guy who used them (he was not dumb at all, he was pretty smart and has done pretty well for himself) and his response was "I know what they are doing is illegal, but the amount is too lucrative that I'm willing to take a chance". However, I did report IBSN to IRS. After a lot of these guys started getting audited, the WITCH I used to work for sent another email clarifying that they just made a deal with these guys to get a discounted rates for the employees but do not vouch for the quality of their work.
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Posted by vijayus (249) 21 hours 49 minutes ago#58


After a lot of these guys started getting audited, the WITCH I used to work for sent another email clarifying that they just made a deal with these guys to get a discounted rates for the employees but do not vouch for the quality of their work.

to betinhodsantos:



I think you and I worked for the same WITCH. I remember this email. Agree that several people filed with IBSN, fully aware that it is a fraud. Some people used to tell me - "Why you dont file with them? So what they are wrong? They have legit partnership with our company so we are in the clear".
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Posted by RayanA (37) 21 hours 42 minutes ago#59


He is not my friend. That was the whole point I was making. He blurted out everything to me while he barely knew me, thinking that I'd be supportive of his acts just because of mere coincidence of being born in the same country. Back then, I did not let anyone know but if this were to happen now, I'd probably. And I have no idea where he is, he worked at the same place as I did for 6 months so, then I ran into him in a grocery store about a year later (he had put on like 20 lbs). And that was 2006 or 2007. But he'd always stand out for me, the first instance of blatant fraud that I had seen. There were also other fraudulent activities that I had seen, not necessarily H1 fraud, but tax fraud committed by people on H1. They used to file taxes with a shady consultant called IBSN tax consultants who raised their tax returns by adding fraudulent non-reimbursed business expenses. What was even worse was that, the WITCH company that I used to work for had a "tie-up" with them which led employees to get a "special rate". They were finally busted in around 2010, you can read about the what those IBSN clients had to go through once the racket was busted. Oh and by the way, IBSN used to called their blatant fraud as "tax planning".

to betinhodsantos:



I was new in the country in 2007 and I was clearly advised by my former classmates to avoid seemingly friendly people who jumps into a conversation with you. Almost everyone wants to see you something or get you involved in some MLM. They have no problem in lying to your face and present it as absolute truth. They can even present that they are from UK, Australia or South Africa etc. They also present stories which claim they know who is who in the software industry and can help you if you want. You just need to come for a meeting :-D.

Looks like he sold you a story which you still think is true :-).
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Posted by betinhodsantos (343) 21 hours 40 minutes ago#60



After a lot of these guys started getting audited, the WITCH I used to work for sent another email clarifying that they just made a deal with these guys to get a discounted rates for the employees but do not vouch for the quality of their work.

to vijayus:



I think you and I worked for the same WITCH. I remember this email. Agree that several people filed with IBSN, fully aware that it is a fraud. Some people used to tell me - "Why you dont file with them? So what they are wrong? They have legit partnership with our company so we are in the clear".



The WITCH that I used to work for used to the flag-bearer and crown jewel of the Indian IT industry but the founders decided that they should be playing a round robin game of becoming CEO and the final founder CEO just f***ed it up.
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Posted by RayanA (37) 21 hours 39 minutes ago#61


The WITCH that I used to work for used to the flag-bearer and crown jewel of the Indian IT industry but the founders decided that they should be playing a round robin game of becoming CEO and the final founder CEO just f***ed it up.

to betinhodsantos:



Kuch Sikka nahi :-D
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Posted by vijayus (249) 21 hours 32 minutes ago#62



The WITCH that I used to work for used to the flag-bearer and crown jewel of the Indian IT industry but the founders decided that they should be playing a round robin game of becoming CEO and the final founder CEO just f***ed it up.

to RayanA:



Kuch Sikka nahi :-D



Okay confirmed! I came here in 2007 from exactly that WITCH.
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Posted by RayanA (37) 21 hours 15 minutes ago#63




The WITCH that I used to work for used to the flag-bearer and crown jewel of the Indian IT industry but the founders decided that they should be playing a round robin game of becoming CEO and the final founder CEO just f***ed it up.

to vijayus:



Kuch Sikka nahi :-D



Okay confirmed! I came here in 2007 from exactly that WITCH.



I started with Honesty :-D
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Posted by betinhodsantos (343) 21 hours 9 minutes ago#64



He is not my friend. That was the whole point I was making. He blurted out everything to me while he barely knew me, thinking that I'd be supportive of his acts just because of mere coincidence of being born in the same country. Back then, I did not let anyone know but if this were to happen now, I'd probably. And I have no idea where he is, he worked at the same place as I did for 6 months so, then I ran into him in a grocery store about a year later (he had put on like 20 lbs). And that was 2006 or 2007. But he'd always stand out for me, the first instance of blatant fraud that I had seen. There were also other fraudulent activities that I had seen, not necessarily H1 fraud, but tax fraud committed by people on H1. They used to file taxes with a shady consultant called IBSN tax consultants who raised their tax returns by adding fraudulent non-reimbursed business expenses. What was even worse was that, the WITCH company that I used to work for had a "tie-up" with them which led employees to get a "special rate". They were finally busted in around 2010, you can read about the what those IBSN clients had to go through once the racket was busted. Oh and by the way, IBSN used to called their blatant fraud as "tax planning".

to RayanA:



I was new in the country in 2007 and I was clearly advised by my former classmates to avoid seemingly friendly people who jumps into a conversation with you. Almost everyone wants to see you something or get you involved in some MLM. They have no problem in lying to your face and present it as absolute truth. They can even present that they are from UK, Australia or South Africa etc. They also present stories which claim they know who is who in the software industry and can help you if you want. You just need to come for a meeting :-D.

Looks like he sold you a story which you still think is true :-).



I'm pretty good of spotting those pesky MLM guys (speaking of them, I've not come across one in the last few years). This guy had nothing to do with MLM. He wasn't making a story, he was new to the city, first day at work, assumes the fellow desi would help him out, was looking for a place to stay. His story started and I started counter questioning (I'm the kinda guy who loves to bust scammers) and eventually everything came out. And I had seen his Aussie passport, there was no doubt about that.
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Posted by betinhodsantos (343) 21 hours 5 minutes ago#65




The WITCH that I used to work for used to the flag-bearer and crown jewel of the Indian IT industry but the founders decided that they should be playing a round robin game of becoming CEO and the final founder CEO just f***ed it up.

to vijayus:



Kuch Sikka nahi :-D



Okay confirmed! I came here in 2007 from exactly that WITCH.



I came here in 2003 for a few months and then back in 2004. The WITCH did not have a large scale green card program at that time, they started around 2006. All I was looking for at that time was a "long onsite trip". Then in 2006 my Engagement Manager asked me if I was interested in a green card and I was like "hell yeah, I want it like yesterday".
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Posted by BajateRaho (363) 18 hours 47 minutes ago#66
to betinhodsantos:

Why are you still hanging around in these forums after getting GC ... addicted?
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Posted by betinhodsantos (343) 18 hours 23 minutes ago#67

Why are you still hanging around in these forums after getting GC ... addicted?

to BajateRaho:



Immigration journey does not end with GC, there is one final step remaining. I'll be off this site once that is done.
OK, that was the official answer, but I've to admit though, there's quite a bit of entertainment on here. Did you read that "green car" joke on that other thread?
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Posted by biomed (1030) 18 hours 20 minutes ago#68


Why are you still hanging around in these forums after getting GC ... addicted?

to betinhodsantos:



Immigration journey does not end with GC, there is one final step remaining. I'll be off this site once that is done.
OK, that was the official answer, but I've to admit though, there's quite a bit of entertainment on here. Did you read that "green car" joke on that other thread?



Yes indeed, our troubles is pure entertainment and a laughing matter for you now that you are on the other side.
I see that you plan on voting for Trump as well in 2020. Way to go, bro!
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Posted by matren (60) 18 hours 17 minutes ago#69
H4 EAD will stay. They are the spouses of H1Bs who showed intent to be permanent resident and backlog is preventing them to be the permanent resident , but one day they will be.

It is unfair for others and for the economy to pay social security for spouses who didn't contribute a dime to the social security fund and to the economy. For all who pays social security and for the growth of the economy every individual should be working and contribute.
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Posted by supremeuser1 (86) 18 hours 7 minutes ago#70
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I think you missed the proposed rule out there to remove H4 EADs.
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Posted by matren (60) 17 hours 43 minutes ago#71
to supremeuser1:

I know they are evaluating it, but end result will be favoring EAD for economical reasons.
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