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LUDs on I-485!!!

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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 14 Aug 2007
Hi Guys,
I got my I-140 approved last week 8/8, then I got an LUD on my I-485 on 8/9 then another LUD on 8/10, but the case is still pending!!!
What dos that mean???
Thanks
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Posted by hj166 (28) 14 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Some say that if there are LUD changes, yours is close to the final decision,
and others say that's just a usual automatic update. You should not get into it too much.
According to these two parties, you can expect your GC tomorrow or the day after tomorrow,
or you have to wait several more months or years (eg. name-check).

As far as I know, there is no real consensus among people about LUD changes.
Thus, I would not wait or expect too much. Let's worry about our mental health.

You know funny? My 140 was approved on 8/8 and there was LUD change on 8/9,
and 485 LUD updated on 8/9, and 8/10. (Almost like yours, isn't it?)
In my case, I believe 485 LUD changes are result of 140 approval.
(Mechanical update.)

What does the change mean? NO ONE KNOWS.
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 14 Aug 2007
u r right, exactly the same as my case, let hope that this is a good move :)

Thanks!!!
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Posted by choohabilli (12) 14 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Both of you should get ready to celebrate...u shall see an approval in a week!
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Posted by hj166 (28) 14 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

you think so? that'd be really cool.
but a friend of mine told me that in his case it took another 3months
for him to receive 485 approval notice after lud changes caused
by 140 approval. hope to get it soon.
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Posted by danc (88) 14 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

I got an 08/03 LUD on I-485 2 days after I-140 approval and exactly one week before I-485 approval. My friend got an LUD on 08/10 and another one on 08/12. Her husband's I-140 was approved a few days before the first LUD. So now we're waiting to see if they'll get an approval by the end of this week. If I hear anything I'll let you know.
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 14 Aug 2007
Gr8 news!!!
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Posted by hj166 (28) 14 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

I did a quick research based on the approval cases in this website and others.
There seem basically 3 conditions (or extra), which will influence our getting GCs
within next couple of weeks. Of course, it's a matter of pure speculation.

1. Texas / Nebraska
Texas seems faster and more regular than Nebraska in processing
cases. (Mine is in the Husker state.) Some people seem to believe
the opposite. However, what is clear is Nebraska is a bit slower than
Texas.

2. No name check
No one knows whether ours are still in the hands of FBI or in a box located
in a warehouse of USCIS. 140 approval doesn't mean the case passed the crazy
name-check - I know this is the worst scenario. Name check might take
several months or years from now on.

3. REF
USCIS often ask applicants to re-sumit some documents or extra materials.
Normally, that easily takes up several weeks.

4. Extra
I checked some other websites. I found many cases that 140 approval and LUD
changes are not directly related to 485 approvals.

At this moment, I feel I am going crazy. It's not good for my mental health.
Anyway, let's hope to get it next week or soon. Good luck.
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 15 Aug 2007
Anyone has anything new to share with us??? My case still pending after the two LUDs on 8/9 and 8/10 :(
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Posted by atlanta04 (59) 15 Aug 2007
I've got 2 LUDs as well on 8/9 and 8/10 on my I-485 and LUD on 8/12 on my I-140. Hoping for the best since I'am EB3 ROW.
No status changes even though LUD changed on both I-140 and I-485.
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Posted by jrock (3) 15 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

I've got LUDS one day after my 140 approval exactly as you on 8/9, 8/10 , and then one on 8/14 and today 8/15. No status change though... I almost afraid this is bad sign, usually 485 just got approved, with no LUDs before.
Anyway good luck, hopefully we all get approved soon.
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 15 Aug 2007
Usually the LUDs are a good sign, that someone is looking at our cases
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Posted by akomaralingam (144) 16 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

From what I've read in this forum and in others, it seems that the LUDs on sunday 8/5 and 8/12 are nothing more than a mere system wide update. The USCIS website is a mirror of the CLAIMS3 DB that USCIS uses internally to process the cases. It seems logical that USCIS would sync the databases over the weekend, when no one is working, which causes the LUD to change. If some of you saw a status change after the LUD, that means the decicion was made prior in the week on the original CLAIMS3 DB that did not get reflected until the sync was completed. This might be part of USCIS's efforts for improved status reporting. For cases that have been completed, the system wide update might still update the LUD with no status change, just to ensure that all records are refreshed. My 2c.

AK
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Posted by swoca (396)   16 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Assuming the CLAIMS/Website mirror architecture you base your assumption on is correct , it is obvious that the website is updated much more frequently than that. Emails, status changes and LUDs happen for all manner of applications at all kinds of times. While the Sunday updates were certainly likely a batch update of some kind I suspect there are also live or 'almost live' updates made too.

Furthermore, because there is such enormous inconsistency in LUD activity across applications of the same kind, and so many cases of inconsistent or perpetually inaccurate online statuses, I would say use what you see online as a guideline (unless hard copies tell a different story), but do not for a minute think you know truly how the online systems actually work.

The fact is, there are so many exceptions to pervasive trends, that even if your application doesn't follow normal patterns, it is not an indication that there is a problem.
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Posted by hj166 (28) 16 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Like yours, after several LUD changes on 8/9 and 8/10,
there has been no changes at all.
If I see any change, I will let you know.

By the way, a close friend of mine recently got his GC.
His RD was in late April and now he has the card.
He told me that his 140 (regular) was approved on July 30 and
485 on Aug 8. There were some LUD changes right after his
140 approval, he said.

You will see his case in this website. TSC, south Korea, EB2, Approved, "prismy"
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Posted by Cheerios (6) 16 Aug 2007
to atlanta04:

I am EB2 ROW, my I-140 got approved on August 13 07, and I got only today (August 16) a LUD on my I-485. I don't have the feeling that this is due to some databank update. My application is at NSC, RD = May 10 07.
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 16 Aug 2007
to atlanta04:

Same here, I think, it is eaither becuase of the 140 approval, or they are working on our cases.
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Posted by quizzer (126) 16 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

kitkat,

whats ur RD,Category and service center?

Thanks
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 16 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

What is RD, recipt date?? if so

RD: feb 12
EB2
Texas
I-140 approval 8/8
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 19 Aug 2007
Any update Guys!!!
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Posted by hj166 (28) 19 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Nothing changed after those from 08/08 to 08/10. Probably, it's still too early to expect anything. If there is no news by the end of this month, I'd better be psychologically prepared for name check. Impatient and anxious. Did you hear anything?
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 19 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Not really, but most of the cases were approved after 10 to 14 days after the two LUDs on the I-485
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Posted by rcesar (178)   19 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

I had 4 LUDs on the last week of July. My GC was approved on 08/08. Take a look at my case and see the pattern.
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Posted by rv2007 (10) 20 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Spoke to an IO in TSC just now. She said case is waiting for a visa number and that new numbers will become available only after October. This does not seem consistent with the approvals that seem to be trickling in still.

Interesting to note that NSC and TSC seem to betaking turns at issuing approvals. Last week more approvals came from NSC, whereas the week before that TSC seemed active.
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Posted by greenwater2006 (6) 20 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

oh.. doesn't look good.
On a different note, does it matter if the I-485 was applied concurrently or semi-concurrently ( applied after receiving I-140 receipt from USCIS ). I noticed a trend - concurrent applicants are getting approved faster than others. I fall under semi-concurrent filing. Does it really matter guys ?
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 21 Aug 2007
The LUDs worked, Finall Card ordered
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Posted by hj166 (28) 21 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Oh, cool. I am very happy for you. Worked fantastic. Hope I can get it soon. But, as we know,
every step is a kind of mystery. So, even if I really want to get this process done, I might
need to way several more months. Anyway, congratulations a lot. I feel really great for you.
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 21 Aug 2007
Thank you so much, and good luck to you too, and to all!!!
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Posted by whencanigetmyg (33) 21 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

hI kitkat, can you provide your details?
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Posted by rcesar (178)   21 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Hi Kitkat79,
Time to celebrate!!!! Congratulations!!
I know this feeling :-)
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 21 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Please click on my name and check the notes...

Thanks
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 21 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Labor Filing Date: 06 Nov 2006
Service Center: Texas
Category: EB2
USCIS Receipt Date: 13 Feb 2007
USCIS Notice Date: 14 Feb 2007
I-140 Processing: regular
I-140 Approval Date: 08 Aug 2007
Fingerprinting Date 1: 02 Mar 2007
RFE: no
I-485 Status: approved
I-485 Approval Date: 21 Aug 2007
Card Ordered Date: 21 Aug 2007
EAD Approval Date: 14 May 2007
AP Approval Date: 27 Jul 2007 Nationality: Iraq
Notes: LUD I-485 03/11, LUD I-765 05/14, LUD I-765 05/15, LUD I-765 05/16, LUD I-131 07/17, LUD I-131 07/27, LUD I-140 08/05, LUD I-140 08/08, LUD I-485 08/09, 08/10, 8/21 Card Production Ordered
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Posted by Cheerios (6) 21 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Hey, we can have hope that the LUDs on our I-485's are real charms....
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Posted by sharkmd (50) 21 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

congratulations to you! am also one with similar LUDs so I hope your luck rubs off on the rest of us. go, and celebrate!
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Posted by sharkmd (50) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

KitKat, your luck rubbed off on me -- I got an email today from CRIS saying that: Notice mailed welcoming the new permanent resident. Do I believe my eyes? So let's hope and pray that the rest of us will get it soon. Good luck!
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Posted by jking (10) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Hi Sharkmd and Kitkat,
Congratulations to both of you. I had similar LUDs as yours, 08/08 and 08/09, but before seeing your messages, I wasn't putting much hope after having waited 2 more weeks after the LUds had occurred. Now that both of you got approals, maybe mine would come momentarily too. :) Thanks a lot for sharing your data, and again, congratulations.
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Posted by whencanigetmyg (33) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

My wife and I got the same lud's(08/09, 08/10). My wife 485 approved yesterday and I am waiting for mine. Let's see
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Posted by sharkmd (50) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

lets hope for the best! maybe you're next on the luck chain :).
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Posted by hj166 (28) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Dear kitkat79 and others.

I got an exciting email 5 min ago from USCIS.
"Card Production Ordered"

My wife's and mine are approved together.
It's exactly 2 weeks after Lud changes.

Hope you guys receive good news soon.
Yahoooo~.
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Posted by whencanigetmyg (33) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!can u pls provide ur lud details.
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Posted by jking (10) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Congratulations, hj166! That's exciting news to hear! If approval 2 weeks after LUDs is a pattern, then I would expect mine this week.
whencanigetgc, please keep us posted if yours get approved. Since your wife's got approved, yours must on its way. Good luck.
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Posted by hj166 (28) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

hj166 - 485 Approved Today (Aug. 22, 2007)

NSC EB2 - LC filed: 22 Feb 2007
Application Mailed: 04 Apr 2007
RD: 06 Apr 2007
ND: 11 Apr 2007

I-140: 08 Aug 2007 (regular)
Fingerprinting Date: 17 May 2007

LUD changes:
05/18/2007(after finger)
08/08/2007 (140 approval)
08/09/2007 (after 140 approval - 140, 485)
08/10/2007 (485)

"Card Production Ordered" email on 08/22/2007

* Good luck to you all.
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Posted by whencanigetmyg (33) 22 Aug 2007
to kitkat79:

Sure JKing. I'll update as soon as hear anything. For now

EB2- India
TSC
LC filed: March 2003
I-485 filed(Both): June, 11th 2007
I-485 Approved(Primary)- August 21st.
I-485 Approval(Derivative)- ??????- Waiting
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Posted by FXXXNebraska (34) 22 Aug 2007
I am just writing in this blog to get some 'luck'.
It seems whoever writes here gets approved!!

I got RFE instead of LUD and addressed last week for my 485.
Lets see if it works now.
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Posted by whencanigetmyg (33) 22 Aug 2007
to FXXXNebraska:

Don't worry....You will get your gc very soon and good luck.

What is ur RFE?
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Posted by FXXXNebraska (34) 22 Aug 2007
It was about my 'status chain' from 07-2003 to 03-2005.
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Posted by vnavarrete74 (37) 22 Aug 2007
to FXXXNebraska:

Give me some luck PLease!!!
My labor was filed in May 2006 and a month ago my case was transferred to the National BEnefits Center.
NO LUDS since 08/07/2007. I am stuck.
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Posted by kitkat79 (25) 22 Aug 2007
Guys, I started this blog two weeks ago, JUST FOR LUCK

Good luck to u all!!!
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Posted by turk (27) 22 Aug 2007
Labor Filing Date: 18 Mar 2005 (TR to RIR in Mar 07)
Service Center: Nebraska
Category: EB2 / ROW
Labor certified: 29 April 2007

140/485/131/765 filed on June 6 2007 with Nebraska.
RD:06/20/2007
FP: 7/13/2007

140 Approved: 08/03/2007.

LUDs: 140: 08/03/2007, 08/05/2007
485: 08/14 and 08/15 with no status change.


is there hope for me?
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Posted by hj166 (28) 22 Aug 2007
to turk:

Based on my recent experience, yes, absolutely.
Probably, within a week. Good luck.
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