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South indian name with initial & Mother's name not present on BC - did anybody face problem ? |
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1) My name on the birth certificate and all school and college records contain an intial followed by first name ( which expands into my father's name as per some south indian rules). The intial is an expanded form only on the passport , due to the legal requirments.
Did anyone face any RFE due to this reason ?
2) I have got a RFE on my birth certificate because my mother's name is not mentioned on it ! I donot have any certifcate or document which contains name of both parents and my DOB.
The hospital discharge document after my birth contains my mother's name and my DOB only ! My name and father's name are not there ! Is Ration card issued in 2002 a valid document ? I have one with my parents and my name, but again the age mentioned there is wrong.
I will appreciate any help or advice.
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to kaizen:
What is the exact RFE verbiage?
You can get a BC from any local Indian consulate - SFO, HOUSTON, CHICAGO, DC, NY.
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to Wtng4Ever:
Does not state the reason in as such. I am guessing that my mother's name absent on the BC is the reason.
It only talks about getting hospital/school/census/baptisum records for evidence. They are also not talking about any affidavit !
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Does not state the reason in as such. I am guessing that my mother's name absent on the BC is the reason.
It only talks about getting hospital/school/census/baptisum records for evidence. They are also not talking about any affidavit !
to kaizen:
No need to panic; this is a common situation with mother's name missing from BC. My advice will be as follows:
1. Get at least two affidavits from your parents/relatives who can testify under oath about your parentage and date of birth. These individuals have to be close enough to you in relationship to make this claim AND old enough to have known you when you were born.
2. No need to send the ration card if it does not have the right birth date; it is only going to confuse USCIS!
3. You can still send the hospital discharge letter even if it does not have your name. You can also try to contact the hospital and request them to add your name. It might be worth a try.
4. Send in your high school/10th grade certificate. These usually have date of birth and father's name.
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to kaizen:
kaizen,
I think your RFE text talks about parentage which means both parents' names should be specified on the birth certificate. If any one of those is missing, you need to either get a corrected birth certificate with mother's name on it and provide secondary evidence in the form of affidavits. The RFE doesn't talk about affidavits but scores of peopls have provided affidavits and their AOSes have been approved after providing affidavits. The RFE text doesn;t specifically points out if the mother's name is missing but rather in general terms like parentage or poof of birth. When I got RFE on my spouse's AOS, we wondered why we got it and then looking closely at her birth certificate, realized that her mother's name was missing. We were able to get a corrected birth certificate along with affidavits and submitted it. her AOS was approved shorty after that. I would recommend writing a cover letter briefly summarizing what are you submitting in support of your RFE response , provide your phone number, fax( if available) in case CIS wants to contact you if they have any further questions etc.
See these threads, they deal with similar issues. Hope it helps. Good luck!
http://www.trackitt.com/discussion-forums/i485-...
http://www.trackitt.com/discussion-forums/i485-...
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showt...
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showt...
http://boards.immigration.com/showpost.php?p=19...
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to harapata:
Thanks you very much for your replies.
I have a copy of "NATIVITY CERTIFICATE" issued by village from year 2000 which has mine and both parents name listed on it. It was taken for passport verification and I do not have the original.
It does not mention father's and mother's name separately, but they are entered one after the other.
Donot know whether it would be wise to submit this as an evidence !
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to kaizen:
If you have a readable copy of the "nativity certificate", you can certainly submit it. You almost never have to submit originals to USCIS anyway.
Since your father's and mother's names are on this certificate, you can use this evidence along with affidavits as evidence of your parentage. You can mention that the nativity certificate was indeed used for passport purposes. The USCIS knows that records in many countries of the world are not kept exactly the way they are here and they tend to look at evidence with this in mind. They are trying to establish your identity, that's it. It happens to a lot of people that they simply cannot access older records (partially missing etc) and they have to rely on a combination of evidence that collectively can convince the USCIS of the petitioner's identity. Do not worry to much; just submit whatever you can. Good luck.
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to kaizen:
If you have a readable copy of the "nativity certificate", you can certainly submit it. You almost never have to submit originals to USCIS anyway.
Since your father's and mother's names are on this certificate, you can use this evidence along with affidavits as evidence of your parentage. You can mention that the nativity certificate was indeed used for passport purposes. The USCIS knows that records in many countries of the world are not kept exactly the way they are here and they tend to look at evidence with this in mind. They are trying to establish your identity, that's it. It happens to a lot of people that they simply cannot access older records (partially missing etc) and they have to rely on a combination of evidence that collectively can convince the USCIS of the petitioner's identity. Do not worry to much; just submit whatever you can. Good luck.
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to DoNoHarm:
Thanks a lot DoNoHarm and HaraPata for taking the pains to reply !
I believe DoNoHarm should be renamed as ReadyToHelp-:-)
Best Wishes and Good Luck to all trackitt members !
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to kaizen:
Status changed to Card production ordered status.
Thanks all my trrackitt friends !
Good Luck and all the best wishes !!
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to kaizen:
Wonderful news kaizen. Congratulations!
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to kaizen:
kaizen,
eentually what documents did you submit?
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Kaizen,
Please please help !!!
got exactly same RFE......
So what documents did you submit.
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my rfe wording-
1) Please submit the oldest available evidence which establishes your birth and parentage. This evidence may include, but is not limited to:
a. Hospital birth records which name the child and both parents.
b. Medical records which name the child and both parents.
c. School records which name the child and both parents.
d. Census records which name the child and both parents.
e. Religious records in the form of a certificate under the seal of the organization where the baptism, dedication, presentation or comparable rit occurred following the birth, showing the date and place of the child's birth, the date of the religious ceremony, and the names of the child's parents.
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to emitzen:
Kaizen,
I'm from South india too. I got the same RFE.
1. Why your name is K. Raja Mohi and Mohi Kattu. Show a proof of name change. ( Damn initial )
2. Parentage - Show me a proof with your dad and mom's name in it. (Birth Cert )
Please reply to this thread.
Thanks,
hdotcom
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to hdotcom:
Hi All,
I am also facing the similar issue:
My name in birth certificate is X.Y.Aaaaaa Bbbbbb
But my name in passport and I485 application is expanded as Surname: Xxxxxxxxxx Yyyyyyy Given Name: Zzzzzzz Aaaaaa Bbbbbb.
When my name got expanded during the passport application process, because of the space limitation in the passport application at that time, part of my expanded surname name (Zzzzzzz) became part of the given name.
RFE says:
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Your application indicates your name as:
Surname: Xxxxxxxxxx Yyyyyyy Given Name: Zzzzzzz Aaaaaa Bbbbbb
Birth certificate submitted indicates the name of the child as:
Surname: X.Y.Aaaaaa Bbbbbb
If your correct name is not X.Y.Aaaaaa Bbbbbb submit a copy of your birth certificate showing your parentage, which has been registered with proper civil authorities of the country of your birth.
If you need to submit secondary evidence of your birth date and marriage, please note: Secondary Evidence will be evaluated for authenticity and credibility and may take the form of historical evidence issued at the time of documented event.Such evidence may include but not limited to medical records, school records and religious documents. Affidavits may also be accepted, provided that they are sworn to by persons who were alive at the time and have personal knowledge of the event to which they attest. "
It will be great if anybody faced this situation reply to this on how they handled this.
Thanks
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