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I have a good going job, but god forbid if something happens, and if i loose job, i dont know why i would not go back to india (instead of struggling here in third world country.. YES, I CONSIDER AMERICA AS A THIRD W.C.) OR becoming an illegal here, if I still want to stay here?
does it make any sense to try to maintain your status and do all the h1b transfer jugglary? does this place deserve it?? i see illegals living much better care-free life than us, legal slaves.. rules are so strict, it just doesnt pay off that well to be legal and play by rules..
what do you think guys?
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I have a good going job, but god forbid if something happens, and if i loose job, i dont know why i would not go back to india (instead of struggling here in third world country.. YES, I CONSIDER AMERICA AS A THIRD W.C.) OR becoming an illegal here, if I still want to stay here?
does it make any sense to try to maintain your status and do all the h1b transfer jugglary? does this place deserve it?? i see illegals living much better care-free life than us, legal slaves.. rules are so strict, it just doesnt pay off that well to be legal and play by rules..
what do you think guys?
to ppgandhi11:
I definitely do not have the guts to go illegal. I can complain and vent all my anger, but I do not think breaking laws is going to take me anywhere. I will surely go back to India.
I do hope the law of Karma or the law of compensation works just for America as it works for individuals.
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to Eb1chance:
Main problem is illegals doesn't demand too much...but educated legal immigrants are demanding lot openly. This makes gov turn on us hard as it makes them feel bad comparing to all other people from other countries. Also, We are under radar for competing at high pay jobs already
just compare with Chinese, Mexicans, Philippians, Vietnamese etc... We are not going on to roads but still making voices loud.
Now it is turning bad on us rather for good..There was some thing gov is not liking on us or may be gov felt we are too demanding, Complaining here.
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to InLineLongTime:
If you are asking such questions, you won't be an illegal.
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to InLineLongTime:
Every country have legals and illegals, do you know that statistically there are more illegal Indians than illegal Chineses & Philippians here in America.
But it is true that current American immigration policy is against high-paying professionals, because many Americans view them as threats toward their job security.
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to czboy:
Guys
You people should be aware that there are more illegals in India than in any other country. Not even in USA
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Every country have legals and illegals, do you know that statistically there are more illegal Indians than illegal Chineses & Philippians here in America.
But it is true that current American immigration policy is against high-paying professionals, because many Americans view them as threats toward their job security.
to czboy:
:-O Philippians??? who are they? are these the ppl in the Bible? :-~ just curious :-D
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Every country have legals and illegals, do you know that statistically there are more illegal Indians than illegal Chineses & Philippians here in America.
But it is true that current American immigration policy is against high-paying professionals, because many Americans view them as threats toward their job security.
to czboy:
Can you please post the link to staitistics or mention where you came across that there are more illegal Indians than illegal Chinese & Philippians here in America.
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to PDAug2008:
you must be seriously deluded if you think a country who has a 9.4 % unemployment rate will pull out the welcome mat for "legal" immigrants.
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you must be seriously deluded if you think a country who has a 9.4 % unemployment rate will pull out the welcome mat for "legal" immigrants.
to Greeni2008:
Sir, you are a complete MORON by making that statement and because you have a GC stucked up your butt now.
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to ppgandhi11:
ppgandhi11: your english language skills are a very strong incentive to become one.
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I have a good going job, but god forbid if something happens, and if i loose job, i dont know why i would not go back to india (instead of struggling here in third world country.. YES, I CONSIDER AMERICA AS A THIRD W.C.) OR becoming an illegal here, if I still want to stay here?
does it make any sense to try to maintain your status and do all the h1b transfer jugglary? does this place deserve it?? i see illegals living much better care-free life than us, legal slaves.. rules are so strict, it just doesnt pay off that well to be legal and play by rules..
what do you think guys?
to ppgandhi11:
Yes, please; go back to India now! Get out of here! Go back to your 1st World Country that you left to join what you call this 3rd World Country. We will not even notice when the door hit your back.
Free-up some space for those who really love to be in USA!
This is the country of opportunities... if it hasn't work for you, it is YOU not the country who have failed.
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to Lalito:
yes , there are more illegals in India .... all Bangladeshi retards flooding the Mumbai system and living in shadows
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I have a good going job, but god forbid if something happens, and if i loose job, i dont know why i would not go back to india (instead of struggling here in third world country.. YES, I CONSIDER AMERICA AS A THIRD W.C.) OR becoming an illegal here, if I still want to stay here?
does it make any sense to try to maintain your status and do all the h1b transfer jugglary? does this place deserve it?? i see illegals living much better care-free life than us, legal slaves.. rules are so strict, it just doesnt pay off that well to be legal and play by rules..
what do you think guys?
to Lalito:
Yes, please; go back to India now! Get out of here! Go back to your 1st World Country that you left to join what you call this 3rd World Country. We will not even notice when the door hit your back.
Free-up some space for those who really love to be in USA!
This is the country of opportunities... if it hasn't work for you, it is YOU not the country who have failed.
ditto !
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Why is that people from Mexico get their asses flamed when something is said against illegal LATINOS...hmmmmm....lemme think......still thinking...
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to Injun23:
Mexico and Legal .... doesnt sound right ... thinking where am I wrong !!!!!! Mexico and illegal ..... now that sounds right ...
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to Irrelevant:
True illegals don't ask so many questions - they just do it.
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Why is that people from Mexico get their asses flamed when something is said against illegal LATINOS...hmmmmm....lemme think......still thinking...
to Injun23:
It may be your own impression. We, Mexicans, tend not to care if it is spoken bad towards another Mexican or Latino... however, we do care and can even take your eyes out of your sockets when is a direct and personal attack.
We, Mexicans, don't really understand the race/nationality-driven comments. It may be your culture, but with regards to us... we don't give a sh-it.
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to PDAug2008:
Please see the link below to see the illegal Indian problem in America:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/feb/19us.htm
Also see the 1996 data:
Estimated Illegal Immigrant Population for Top Twenty Countries of Origin
and Top Twenty States of Residence: October 1996
Country of origin Population State of residence Population
All countries 5,000,000
1. Mexico 2,700,000
2. El Salvador 335,000
3. Guatemala 165,000
4. Canada 120,000
5. Haiti 105,000
6. Philippines 95,000
7. Honduras 90,000
8. Dominican Republic 2 75,000
9. Nicaragua 70,000
10. Poland 70,000
11. Colombia 65,000
12. Ecuador 55,000
13. Trinidad & Tobago 50,000
14. Jamaica 50,000
15. Pakistan 41,000
16. India 33,000
17. Ireland 30,000
18. Korea 30,000
19. Peru 30,000
20. Portugal 27,000
Other 764,000 Other 330,000
Indian, Philippins, Pakistan and Korean have the largest illegal Asian population, and India is going to become the largest Asian illegal immigration source in near future!
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Why is that people from Mexico get their asses flamed when something is said against illegal LATINOS...hmmmmm....lemme think......still thinking...
to Lalito:
It may be your own impression. We, Mexicans, tend not to care if it is spoken bad towards another Mexican or Latino... however, we do care and can even take your eyes out of your sockets when is a direct and personal attack.
We, Mexicans, don't really understand the race/nationality-driven comments. It may be your culture, but with regards to us... we don't give a sh-it.
Yup, exactly proved what I said, just read your comment again and if you have any brain you will understand that you are contradicting your own comment in your comment.
And about taking my eyes out, yeah sure, a midget should never ever try to do that otherwise for whole his life he will be known as Amigo with one leg, one arm and one eye, no one will hire to clean their toilets.
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Please see the link below to see the illegal Indian problem in America:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/feb/19us.htm
Also see the 1996 data:
Estimated Illegal Immigrant Population for Top Twenty Countries of Origin
and Top Twenty States of Residence: October 1996
Country of origin Population State of residence Population
All countries 5,000,000
1. Mexico 2,700,000
2. El Salvador 335,000
3. Guatemala 165,000
4. Canada 120,000
5. Haiti 105,000
6. Philippines 95,000
7. Honduras 90,000
8. Dominican Republic 2 75,000
9. Nicaragua 70,000
10. Poland 70,000
11. Colombia 65,000
12. Ecuador 55,000
13. Trinidad & Tobago 50,000
14. Jamaica 50,000
15. Pakistan 41,000
16. India 33,000
17. Ireland 30,000
18. Korea 30,000
19. Peru 30,000
20. Portugal 27,000
Other 764,000 Other 330,000
Indian, Philippins, Pakistan and Korean have the largest illegal Asian population, and India is going to become the largest Asian illegal immigration source in near future!
to czboy:
How come 'China' missed....? sounds very biased details. Even if u say reasons, It can't be believed... OR Did u put China in 'Other' category?
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to Injun23:
Injun23 - as you said, I may not have a brain, would you mind explaining your comment face-to-face? would you be brave enough?
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to Lalito:
While it is true (in my opinion at least) that illegals are taking USA in a sharp U-turn and it is just matter of time when USA is no longer going to be as competent as it has been over the last 50 years or so; comments from ppgandhi11 don't make any sense.
Simple rule, if it doesn't work out for you, either just leave or keep trying. Just chill out.
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Injun23 - as you said, I may not have a brain, would you mind explaining your comment face-to-face? would you be brave enough?
to Lalito:
Did I make you that frustrated that you want to fight me like YOU all illegal gangsters do. Go clean some toilet, sell drugs and pimp your women I dont even want to come close to you illegal midgets.
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to Injun23:
Injun23 - scared?
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Injun23 - scared?
to Lalito:
Who isnt afraid of an illegal gangster criminal who is known for murdering people.
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Injun23 - scared?
to Injun23:
Who isnt afraid of an illegal gangster criminal who is known for murdering people.
Answer: Only you. You are such a coward. You are those who attack and then hide... wow, so brave...
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to InLineLongTime:
This is not my estimation, go check the various data from google or yahoo by youself.
My point is we probably come from all over the world , but we all have American dreams, most of us will become the same American citizens, if you want to belittle other people , you're not qualified to be here legally!
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to Lalito:
At least Mexicans ,Latinos,so called "ILLIGAL" They don't have to to fake papers!!!!! to get their legal status,you guys should have more respect to a human being .
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This is not my estimation, go check the various data from google or yahoo by youself.
My point is we probably come from all over the world , but we all have American dreams, most of us will become the same American citizens, if you want to belittle other people , you're not qualified to be here legally!
to czboy:
It is just impossible and Unbelievable that 'China' is not in the list...Any educated person can think of 'How China missed in list'..unless they dumb enough...lot of pretenders here....you are one of those.
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to InLineLongTime:
Hope you can use this data to think more scientifically please, educated gentelman!
Also guess people from which country are awarded most Phds in USA?
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It is just impossible and Unbelievable that 'China' is not in the list...Any educated person can think of 'How China missed in list'..unless they dumb enough...lot of pretenders here....you are one of those.[/Q]to InLineLongTime:
Before a judge... do you think your argument is strong enough as published stats?
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you must be seriously deluded if you think a country who has a 9.4 % unemployment rate will pull out the welcome mat for "legal" immigrants.
to JaiMataDi:
Sir, you are a complete MORON by making that statement and because you have a GC stucked up your butt now.
jealous? hahahahahaha
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to Greeni2008:
Becoming Illegal is not the solution to stay i US. If situation prevails to become illegal and if you are self respect then please go back to your home country. I agree home country may not have the oppurunity as we are having in US (both legal and illegal, here illegal means un-documented).
Regarding India and Indians, whomsoever came from India to US, has the plan to go back sooner or later. Exceptional are always there. There may people who don't want to go to India, mainly due to infrasturcture, safety, security and corruption in India. But India is the only country in the world, where Indian ( atleast 30 % age) wants to come back to India, this I hav not seen in any country. Other than Indian those people don't want to go back nor they have guts to go back. Atleast Indian can go back.
No disrespect to other country or people. We are human being and want to leave happy life.
Good luck to everybody and hope everybody wishes should be filled ASAP. I don't mind to be in last in queue for GC, happy to see atleast others get it.
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to BabuGC2005:
Britishers robbed India for 200 years tirelessly taken wealth out of it...Else I personally don't think any one migrated out of country.
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Britishers robbed India for 200 years tirelessly taken wealth out of it...Else I personally don't think any one migrated out of country.
to InLineLongTime:
I don't see a relationship between the two today. So are you here because of the British? What?
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This 2008 world GDP top 15 ranking, please note Indian population is 10 times larger than Mexican, but their GDP are almost the same.
2008 List by the International Monetary Fund
Rank Country GDP (millions of USD)
1 United States 14,264,600
2 Japan 4,923,761
3 People's Republic of China 4,401,614
4 Germany 3,667,513
5 France 2,865,737
6 United Kingdom 2,674,085
7 Italy 2,313,893
8 Russia 1,676,586
9 Spain 1,611,767
10 Brazil 1,572,839
11 Canada 1,510,957
12 India 1,209,686
13 Mexico 1,088,128
14 Australia 1,010,699
15 South Korea 947,010
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Britishers robbed India for 200 years tirelessly taken wealth out of it...Else I personally don't think any one migrated out of country.
to my1234:
I don't see a relationship between the two today. So are you here because of the British? What?
It left country poor and undeveloped, More population. That is one of the factors people migrated out in search of better prospectus etc..
per czboy GDP list,
India is one of the biggest market and capable, It is is sleeping monster market that can beat so called great markets in the world. It takes time..When that occur..reverse migration will happens from west. I wish it should happen at least to teach lesson those criticize Indians.
In fact, If all this talent is used for it's self development, well Computerized(which is taking place now..)..it's own software market itself is lot bigger than many developed nations..
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Britishers robbed India for 200 years tirelessly taken wealth out of it...Else I personally don't think any one migrated out of country.
to InLineLongTime:
I don't see a relationship between the two today. So are you here because of the British? What?
It left country poor and undeveloped, More population. That is one of the factors people migrated out in search of better prospectus etc..
per czboy GDP list,
India is one of the biggest market and capable, It is is sleeping monster market that can beat so called great markets in the world. It takes time..When that occur..reverse migration will happens from west. I wish it should happen at least to teach lesson those criticize Indians.
In fact, If all this talent is used for it's self development, well Computerized(which is taking place now..)..it's own software market itself is lot bigger than many developed nations..
My point is not to criticize India, is to let you know people should respect each other even if you're from one of the best countries in the world,
not mention that your country-India although she has great history is still far behind the rest of the world. Please go review statistics and data from World Bank , you can learn more about India, China and Mexico.
By the way, hope you get your green card soon!
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