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Mostly It will not affect. But it will take some time for them to process your application. Moreover if they need some queries to clarify with you, then they will use your e-mail / phone numbers provided by you. So please check those things are perfect. Ask them your status via e-mail or phone. I used email and they responed in 2 hours immediately.
I sent across my IELTS certificate after submitting my application. I called to let them know that I was doing this. They don't have a problem with this as long as your case has not been assigned to a caseworker as yet. I also called them after sending the doc to make sure that they had received it and that it had been linked to my application. Better safe than sorry!!
Also, it's easier to call them as opposed to emailing them. You need to wait for quite a while before getting through, but you get immediate answers to your queries and they're very helpful.
Called HO on 26th. The automated system says " Currently working on applications received on 28th June". Looks like they are not keen on updating that announcement. I sent my application on 9th July and the case worker is assigned. I have sent additional documents that have reached HO, but not yet linked to my file.
Application Submitted: 4th July Application reached HO: 9th July Fee debited: 10th July Got Reference Number and Payment confirmation: 11th July Sent additional documents: 23rd July Assigned to caseworker: 26th July
can any body tell the address to send the additional documents after sending the HSMP application intially.
They recieved an application on 26/07/2007 and amount debited on 26/07/2007 from my bank.
I didnot recieve the reference number yet to my email id. i will email them to have the reference number.
I have one query. I didnot provide the ORIGINAL DEGREE certifice for my PG since there is a name correction on it. I provided the alternative documents ORIGINAL ACADEMIC and ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT to substantiate it. the reason of applying in this month itself is, my eligible 20 points for the age gets completed end of this month to reach 75 points.
may i know the exact meaning of ORIGINAL ACADEMIC REFERENCE.. I got the academic reference from the college. is it correct way to get from the college. the letter contains year of passing, studied in the which university and secured class etc. which is signed by the principal of the college. Please update me ASAP. awaiting for your kind reply.
Application Submitted: 4th July Application reached HO: 9th July Fee debited: 10th July Got Reference Number and Payment confirmation: 11th July Sent additional documents: 23rd July Assigned to caseworker: 25th July Additional documents reached HO: 26th July
I called HO today. The representative informed me that the case-worker is waiting for my additional documents. As mentioned above, the additional documents reached HO on 26th July. The representative mentioned that she has no information if the additional documents have been linked to the application.
Then I requested her to connect to the case worker. She gently denied the request and suggested me to wait for a few WEEKS.
Most people around my timeline have got their decisions, and I am pretty nervous now. Experienced folks, please suggest, what should be my next step?
I think issue was not the toefl, but your degree certificate.You need to provide the original certificate.If you have problems with it , best thing is to fix the issue and re apply.Because what the HO does is, according to a guide line, and the case workers have their own guidelines.The dicesion is made by a panel, and not individualy by a single case worker.If there are issues on that , they discuss and decide that.
So better request for a review if you know 100% the case was toefl. other wise you may have to re apply , once the case reach the case worker I dnt think they will let you add any thing to the case, unless caseworker requested.
You cannot speak to Case workers by the way, there are governing code of conduct for them :)
You are almost there, its been very silly of them not to accept TOEFL as all most every UK university , does that.Its a good case you have High Lighted,
Fingers cross , you should get it as they may further discuss it, as you said , you have a strong case ( FAQ 39) , It is their dault not to mention the level of TOEFL which they would expect.So you have already won the battle.Did you tell them , that " it is not mentioned any where , that you would need a particular standard, for you case on toefl to be accepted I.E. FAQ 39)
All the best , the worst case you still can get the bloody cabridge TOEFL, all these are ways of spending money for their cause. being in this country for 5 years studied every thing here in UK, still I had to do it for the sake of the requirement.(didnt want to give them a chance at all regarding HSMP)
I wrote to HO and they are not even ready to take a call on the incident.
Here's the mail that I wrote to HO guys and their VERY HELPFUL response:
MY MAIL: ============================================= Dear HSMP Team,
My application details are as follows:
Full Name: XYZ Reference number: 222XXX Date of Birth: XXXX
I understand that my application was unsuccessful on the ground that my TOEFL certificate was not considered an acceptable standard to satisfy the English Language criteria. I have a TOEFL score of 290/300 and I believe that such a score would be equivalent to a score of 6 on IELTS.
The following FAQ page on your website (Question No. 39) clearly mentions that TOEFL is an acceptable certificate for HSMP applications: [url] http://www.workingintheuk.gov.uk/working_in_the_uk/EN/homepage/schemes_a nd_programmes/hsmp/hsmp_faq.html? [/url]
I understand that Home Office has recently started accepting TOEFL certificates. Hence applications with TOEFL may not be as common, with the caseworkers, as the applications with IELTS are. This perfectly justifies the error in evaluation of my case.
I would request you to please suggest me how should this may be brought to the notice of caseworkers and what should be my next steps?
MAIL FROM HO ============================================= Dear Applicant,
If you feel that your application was wrongly assessed, you may now apply for a review. The review request form can be downloaded from our website and faxed to the below number. Reviews must be received within 28 days of the date on your decision letter.
DO not try to call them or contact them. Use the lines such as review and make your case. Dont be in a position to say They did a Mistake
"Hence applications with TOEFL may not be as common, with the caseworkers, as the applications with IELTS are. This perfectly justifies the error in evaluation of my case."
because I do understand people do make mistakes on understanding your case. But there are no mistakes in the guidelines(as far as I know) because case worker guidelines are practical applications of law.It is not a individual who make the decision. So what you should do is make the review requesr fax to them in that "please carefully mention why you think your case should be considered on the basis of faq (39) AND BRING YOUR POINT SUCH AS "IT IS NOT MENTIONED ANY WHERE , THERE IS A MINIMUM CONDITION EXCEPTED FOR TOEFL .I have got 290/300 , Which i think is perfectly acceptable , If you consider Toefl as a proof of required language skills.
If toefl is considered , I kindly request you to consider my application on the basis of 290/300 oppose to 6/9 in IELTS. if it is not the case and else where it is mentioned a minimum condition for TOEFL , please do advice me , so that i can produce , the required IELTS.
Hope this will help
be positive and fingers cross,dont try to contact them ,(its not gonna happen in this country)follow the procedured, and you will be fine good luck Nasty Kid
After the above mentioned reply from HO I am not very hopeful. The logic seems to be missing at HO.
dont come to that conclusion, there is a board who take a decision ,and there are rules to support them.What you need to do id to make sure there is no guideline that quantify the TOEFL out their in hsmp GUIDELINES
If there is a guideline , saying 2according to section xxx, part yyy , an applicant need to have minimum od x amount of toefl for thier HSMP language requirements, then the best advice is book ieltd ASAP and re apply
I have a score of 290 out of 300, with 100% score in 3 out of 4 sections. Now given the equivalence of IELTS and TOEFL, I can't believe that such a TOEFL score could not be pegged equal to a grade 6 or IELTS.
faq(39) Do TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language) English language qualifications satisfy the English Language requirements for HSMP? Yes, TOEFL certificates satisfy the English language criteria where they are of a level equivalent to IELTS level 6 and were awarded prior to you making your application.
1) They accept it 2) there is no mark such as IELTS 6 , so
request them to consider your case on the basis of these 2 arguments plus, you can ask them if 290/300 is not good enough , what amount they accept , and where else it is mentioned
So you have you say
P.S I have no idea why you did TOEFL, may be you would have been planning US
NAIRC is not required, if the university is recognised by UGC in India....And the Degree is taught in English- Getting the certificate needs an investment of 2-3 K rupees, Easiest.. Dont waste time in NAIRC and IELTS etc...
"recognised by UGC in India." doesnt apply here.Each of the applications are just another case for a case worker. I will only agree with you if "recognised by UGC in India." is part of the immigration rules here.
Dont spend another 400Â£ give them another point to refuse It is our responsibility to make sure nothing goes wrong and every thing is according to the applicant guidelines/1971 immigrations/case worker manual bla bla.
You can experiment if you have money/or shortcuts but Dont blame NastyKid
I have been in this country enough to find what is accepted and whats not just trying to give some one advice, with out donating money for a lawyer lol
case workers do not care even if it is from Oxford or Cambridge Trust me, and the other thing is they will not care our degrees no matter how good they are at most time This is my first hand experience. If you dont believe me, Come and join the party
Nastykid, Please please do not misguide, read the guidance, properly, follow as it is and it will be approved. BTW UGC approved university degree taught in English medium is accepted by Any case worker in HOME office and just like you I am also in this country, enough time to understand how it works. Again, Please do not misguide- Let me make it clear with One caveat, If your Degree is taught in english medium and the university is recognised, by UGC in India, every Damn governemnt organisation which does not belong to either a terrorist country or acountry under dictatorship, will recognise, and trust me UK even though is driven by processes as it is, it is one of the best countries to live and work, and respects people. AGAIN GUYS, PLEASE DONOT MISGUIDE PEOPLE
Good for you Mate, If you think I Miss guide, go ahead.
(A) "by UGC in India, every Damn governemnt organisation which does not belong to either a terrorist country or acountry under dictatorship, will recognise, "
(B) "BTW UGC approved university degree taught in English medium is accepted by Any case worker in HOME office"
This is the guideline on April 2007 "Introduction and Points available 2. In this category you can score the following points according to the highest level educational qualifications you hold: PhD Masters Bachelors 50 35 30 3. Qualifications have to meet the recognised standard of UK Bachelors, Masters or PhD (as verified by the current National Academic Recognition Information Centre (NARIC) database), to be awarded the respective points. 4. Vocational and professional qualifications can also score points in this area if satisfactory independent evidence is produced to show that the qualification is equivalent to an applicable level UK academic qualification. This will be verified, where possible, by reference to the NARIC database or the relevant professional body. It is the responsibility of the applicant to demonstrate that the qualification equates to a UK academic qualification. You should obtain evidence that the qualification equates to an appropriate British level academic qualification and submit this evidence with your application."
What I was telling was how we get treated here ,If you beleive it.thats very good.But We cannot assume That it will happen Its not a miss guide, and all What I am saying is They will accept any thing with in the guidelines.But looking an CD's case , its profoundly not true isnt it?
From our side we need to make sure That they dont take piss as we were from out side UK. My point is not about miss leading any one go shit's sake,Its about poor people sepnding 400Â£ and then realise ooh shit I co
SUBJECT: Application for Highly Skilled Migrant Programme
This letter is with reference to my enclosed application for the UK Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP). To assist my application assessment, I am explaining the evidences I am providing for the â€˜pointsâ€™ claimed.
Enclosures (in the following order):
1. HSMP Application Form
2. Academic Qualifications: (For 35 Points Claimed) a. Original Degree Certificate stating that a Master of Business Administration (MBA) was awarded by "XXXXX"
3. Previous Earnings â€“ Salaried Employment: (For 25 Points Claimed) I have claimed 25 points for the gross income (INR 460,219 or about GBP 5,402) earned by me from 27th Sep 2006 to 31st Mar 2007. As per Annex-C of HSMP guidelines I am providing the following evidences. a. Income Tax Return (ITR) for the financial year 2006-07. Actual employment/earning period covered under the ITR was 27th Sep 2006 to 31st Mar 2007. The total earning for the period was INR 462,418, which includes cash salary earnings of INR 460,219 and other salary perquisites of INR 2,199. I am claiming a salaried earning of INR 460,219, as further substantiated by my wage slips. b. Wage Slips from Oct-2006 to 30-April-2007 (covering the entire amount mentioned in IT return) c. Banks Statements for the period 01-Oct-2006 to 10-May-2007 d. Form 16 â€“ Certificate of earning from my employer
4. Age Assessment: (For 20 Points Claimed) a. Driving License
5. English Language: a. Original IELTS TRF Overall Band Score 8.5
Total Points Claimed â€“ 80 Points
In addition to the above-mentioned documents, I am enclosing a copy of your